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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Korean man rapes foreign woman, claims drunkenness, Daveziens howl in protest.
Drunken Foreigner throws property of merchant around, gets tackled, Daveziens say, hey he was drunk, what's so bad?
Come on, either drunkenness is an excuse or it isn't. I say it isn't.
So he got tackled, what was the guy supposed to do? Politely ask him to go and retrieve the stuffed animal his friend had just thrown?
Put yourself in the Korean merchants shoes, two drunks come and just start taking your property and throwing it. What would you do?
What would you do if two K-Teachers you invited to your house just started throwing things out the window?
And yes, this story is clearly the Towel Slapper and Bramble called it 1st.
Arguing over fiction, a clear sign of soju induced lunacy. |
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NovaKart
Joined: 18 Nov 2009 Location: Iraq
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:30 am Post subject: |
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| Raping someone is a lot worse than just tossing around a stuffed animal. The shopkeeper's reaction was extreme and it's obvious the guy is just milking it for all it's worth. I'm not saying the OP is blameless by any means but it's a really minor thing, the guy got his merchandise back. Sure I would be upset if I was in the Korean guy's shoes but once I rectified the situation I wouldn't be so vindictive about it. |
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bigtexas
Joined: 30 Nov 2009
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:31 am Post subject: |
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pack your bags son or GO AND PAY THE MAN THE MONEY. I can see that you absolutley know nothing about Korean culture. When Koreans fight or have disputes, money can solve everything. So you can either do a midnight run and try to leave the country, pay the guy off and say I'm sorry in korean 50 times, or go to jail.
Money solves things in Korea. Sounds bad, but its the truth. Pay the man, he's a vendor for god's sake. He does not have a lot of money, and he just wants you to respect him and feel remorseful.
Damn kid, you are just another immature drunk that cant grow up. There are a lot of them, and they never seem to learn from their mistakes. Good luck getting a job back in your home country, loser.
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NovaKart
Joined: 18 Nov 2009 Location: Iraq
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:31 am Post subject: |
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Some of you guys are being really hard on the OP. Maybe you haven't gotten really drunk and done something stupid before but I certainly have and can sympathize.
Anyway, the vendor should have just confiscated the bear instead of being such a hoo-ha and then going even further and milking it. Let us know how it turns out OP and I hope it works out well. |
In many previous threads about drunks committing crimes, people generally had little sympathy.
I see no reason to feel sorry for this guy at all. |
For someone with such a whimsical avatar I'd expect you to have a more light-hearted attitude. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:14 am Post subject: |
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Nova...Captain Coreas question is quite valid.
The OP was hammered and took stuff from a store and walked away. Whats the shop owner supposed to do?
Also the OPs story is confused because he was DRUNK....
So whats the deal? Blame the store owner for reacting and excuse the DRUNK guy who took something from the store and possibly tossed it around?
Wow. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:43 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
Come on, either drunkenness is an excuse or it isn't. I say it isn't. |
Agreed.
| NovaKart wrote: |
| For someone with such a whimsical avatar I'd expect you to have a more light-hearted attitude. |
I take it you've never read my posts before.
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| Also the OPs story is confused because he was DRUNK.... |
Exactly. Very few drunks I know are able to recount their debauchery in good order. |
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mcviking
Joined: 24 Mar 2009 Location: 'Fantastic' America
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:56 am Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea is all business. Look at the stone gaze of his avatar. Sends shivers down the spine it does. I think it would be awesome if he actually had that costume. Or if I could have cheese fries with space ghost. |
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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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I had something strange like the OP's story happen to me in a small town bank, in the town where I lived working as a public school Eng teacher. I always used to go in, at least once a week at lunch, to get U.S. dollars because I collected things buying mail order from the States. Get like twenty dollars, or forty dollars U.S. once a week.
One day I go in and ask for twenty dollars U.S. And this Korean bank employee, middle aged male, suddenly gets pissed off looking and sort of snaps inside, it looks like, striding up to the counter where the girls are who do the service.
And he says that last time I was in the bank, last week, I left without paying them 20 dollars. Which is what I was looking to get today, 20U.S.
It's like it just popped into his head and he was winging it, like he just snapped and went on a dark mode.
And he followed right thru with it, though the bank teller girls were looking at me like they thought he was acting like an ass/crazy. Still they didn't get involved and I was dealing with this guy, who I'd never talked to, but seemed to have something against 'the foreigner' who'd been in once a week to get U.S. dollars.
And he says come with me we will go to the police station and talk to the police. And I said where is the receipt showing that I owe you twenty dollars? There was no way I was going to the police with this guy. I talked to the Korean teacher back at the public school and he agreed, that bank employee guy was completely out of line.
So I never went back to that bank. And I know there's absolutely NO way the tellers, who are very sharp, would let me walk out without paying in full. More often they would deal me to a disadvantage I suspected, taking a litte bit. But no way they'd make a mistake, very sharp.
Bugged the hell out of me how this dumbass could be allowed to make his lot of noise like that with none of the other employees stopping him, tho they knew he was having some kind of fit.
The end. |
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Azby
Joined: 22 Jan 2009 Location: Gyeonggi Do South Korea
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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First put yourself in the vendors shoes. If you were him, how would you like it if a foreigner did that to you?
I don't think you will get charged, but you have had a scare. That should make you determined not to do anything like this ever again.
Make it your goal to be respectful to everyone around you, even those in lower jobs than yourself, such as a smile.
Life is a learning curve. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| mcviking wrote: |
| Captain Corea is all business. Look at the stone gaze of his avatar. Sends shivers down the spine it does. I think it would be awesome if he actually had that costume. Or if I could have cheese fries with space ghost. |
is there a reason why you are going off-topic and resorting to boring ad hominem attacks? |
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hockeyguy109
Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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I smell the Towel Slapper's MO on this one. Idiotic behavior perceived of as innocent; Cops; Korean Friend; Lawsuit; etc.
It's been a couple months, time for it to resurface. |
That's exactly what I was thinking! Who is this guy? Good writer. He should put his talents to better use and work on a novel and stop posting stupid crap on ESL cafe.
You just know some newbies are reading this crap and getting the sh*t scared out of them...1 day before getting on the plane, "Oh god, what have I gotten myself into!"
So be nice, OP. |
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Reggie
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| I guess you could always go from church to church, taking up love offerings to pay him the 3,000,000 won for his peg leg. That's probably what I would do if I had to pay. You might as well get started this morning and let us know how it goes tonight. |
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kabrams

Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Location: your Dad's house
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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You say that's not "theft" but it was "theft". You took something that wasn't yours. How did the guy know you weren't going to run off with it and not come back? He's not a mind-reader. I bet there are always drunk people grabbing stuff and taking off with it.
Just because you're drunk doesn't mean you can fk around with people's stuff. That's how he makes his MONEY, okay? That's his job. You don't see him rolling up in your classroom, drunk, do you? Touching your books and computers....so why would you go to his job and act like a jerk?
I hope this teaches you a lesson. |
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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Any updates OP? Don't worry about topping the last one, just flow with the story and let it come to you. The best stories are not forced.
BTW maybe this is the same guy who also did the "I swallowed a bone" thread waybackwhen. |
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NovaKart
Joined: 18 Nov 2009 Location: Iraq
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:56 am Post subject: |
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I don't want to keep reiterating the same argument and I'm kind of tired of this thread except for finding out what happens next. I'll just say that while I don't think being drunk is an excuse the shopkeeper's reaction was really over the line.
The OP has already faced the consequences for this so I think people should lay off a bit. Everyone makes mistakes sometimes. |
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