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Moldy Rutabaga

Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Ansan, Korea
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:53 am Post subject: |
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>How does one use "other" as a verb? I'm intrigued.
In my English grad program, it was the trendy buzzword word to beat all, based on the idea that disadvantaged groups are marginalized from the mainstreams of politics, culture, and literature -- and so they are the "other." I found the term confusing as usually that marginalization was negative but sometimes positive. And so there were papers with names like "Interrogating the Juxtaposition of Lear and Cordelia as Agonistic Representations of the Praxis of Doubt: Othering the Dynamic of Homoerotic Transference in Renaissance and Postcolonial Identification." Which were often total bumpf.
Most of my professors liked me because I would write good papers but intentionally with the shortest title possible: "Humor in Beowulf."
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davai!

Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Location: Kuwait
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:13 am Post subject: |
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| When someone mentions a movie, always say, "the book was soooo much better..." |
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maryjanes
Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Location: Cheongju
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:41 am Post subject: |
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| the trendy buzzword word to beat all, based on the idea that disadvantaged groups are marginalized from the mainstreams of politics, culture, and literature -- and so they are the "other." |
Surely that's a noun then? |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| People who think they are being tricky come across as being pretty dumb. |
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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:37 am Post subject: |
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| Moldy Rutabaga wrote: |
>How does one use "other" as a verb? I'm intrigued.
In my English grad program, it was the trendy buzzword word to beat all, based on the idea that disadvantaged groups are marginalized from the mainstreams of politics, culture, and literature -- and so they are the "other." I found the term confusing as usually that marginalization was negative but sometimes positive. |
Of course you'd be confused by it. You're an educated white male- any deviation from that standard, in terms of race, gender, class, education, etc. is judged as other.
As for the question at hand, this seems to explain it in ways that are very relevant to this board:
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Simplistic recognition of normal human diversity, combined with ethnocentric thinking can lead to a tendency to depict �others� [women, natives, gorillas...] as somehow, categorically, topologically, intrinsically, DIFFERENT.
In that �difference�, lays the potential for HIERARCHICAL or STEREOTYPICAL thinking ie: all natives are the same.... all women are the same.... All men are the same [and they come from Mars]....
This practice of comparing ourselves to others and AT THE SAME TIME DISTANCING ourselves from them is called �OTHERING�, by which we mean positing that humans and societies whose life and historical experiences vary from your own are �different� [which is true] and not understandable [which is not true]; use of the distance and difference to re-confirm one�s own �normalcy� |
http://www.cwrl.utexas.edu/~ulrich/rww03/othering.htm
(Never thought an ability to use google would be the key to making people think you were smart, did you?) |
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.38 Special
Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| peppermint wrote: |
| Moldy Rutabaga wrote: |
>How does one use "other" as a verb? I'm intrigued.
In my English grad program, it was the trendy buzzword word to beat all, based on the idea that disadvantaged groups are marginalized from the mainstreams of politics, culture, and literature -- and so they are the "other." I found the term confusing as usually that marginalization was negative but sometimes positive. |
Of course you'd be confused by it. You're an educated white male- any deviation from that standard, in terms of race, gender, class, education, etc. is judged as other.
As for the question at hand, this seems to explain it in ways that are very relevant to this board:
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Simplistic recognition of normal human diversity, combined with ethnocentric thinking can lead to a tendency to depict �others� [women, natives, gorillas...] as somehow, categorically, topologically, intrinsically, DIFFERENT.
In that �difference�, lays the potential for HIERARCHICAL or STEREOTYPICAL thinking ie: all natives are the same.... all women are the same.... All men are the same [and they come from Mars]....
This practice of comparing ourselves to others and AT THE SAME TIME DISTANCING ourselves from them is called �OTHERING�, by which we mean positing that humans and societies whose life and historical experiences vary from your own are �different� [which is true] and not understandable [which is not true]; use of the distance and difference to re-confirm one�s own �normalcy� |
http://www.cwrl.utexas.edu/~ulrich/rww03/othering.htm
(Never thought an ability to use google would be the key to making people think you were smart, did you?) |
Hmmmm... Yes. *nods knowingly* |
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Moldy Rutabaga

Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Ansan, Korea
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, yes. But how would Goethe approach this, as it were? (You see? Throw in a "Goethe" and an "as it were" and, dude, the smart chix are all over you.)
Thanks for the explanation PM. It's one of those terms that became thrown around so much that I started to close my ears to it and forget what it meant. It can indeed be used as a verb, as in describing how the big bad dominant group (like me, who made $12,000 a year as a grad assistant) "others" a marginalized group.
And so another way to appear smart is to change nouns to verbs. I believe if we all concrete our thinking we can banana our commitment to guitaring a more juggernaut actioning.
(President's minister in Idiocracy: "Whoa, did you just think of that?") |
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DorkothyParker

Joined: 11 Apr 2009 Location: Jeju
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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Of all that, I really just like banana as a verb. It's just so ap-PEEL-ing.
Banana (v): The act of confirming an idea in its present state.
Origin: The use of the word banana makes reference to the security of the fruit within the peel. An idea or plan that had been "bananad" is expected not to be altered or changed in the future. |
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kiknkorea

Joined: 16 May 2008
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:13 am Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
| People who think they are being tricky come across as being pretty dumb. |
This.
Seriously, if I saw someone wearing a bow tie, top hat, and monocle I wouldn't think they were smart.
If I were able to keep a straight face, I'd just ask him where the masquerade party was.  |
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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:00 am Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
| People who think they are being tricky come across as being pretty dumb. |
This.
Seriously, if I saw someone wearing a bow tie, top hat, and monocle I wouldn't think they were smart.
If I were able to keep a straight face, I'd just ask him where the masquerade party was.  |
Or call them Mr. Peanut. (Thank you George Costanza)
I should add the caveat that that only works if you're over 50 and have a ridiculous moustache. |
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Underwaterbob

Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Location: In Cognito
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| davai! wrote: |
| When someone mentions a movie, always say, "the book was soooo much better..." |
Make sure there is a book first. |
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Moldy Rutabaga

Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Ansan, Korea
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Make sure there is a book first. |
You should always say there was a book, and it was better. And it was written in Greek, or by French deconstructionists. Or by Goethe. Lots of Goethe!
Failing that bluff, you can simply argue that the film would have been better in black and white as an artistic statement. Color is just so, so common. |
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exercise_in_futility
Joined: 11 May 2009
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Play chess conspicuously on facebook, especially against n00bs so you can get a high rating even if you're not good enough to back it up against a player of equal skill.
*Warning* this requires that you actually know how to play some Chess. Unfortunately, the game of Checkers does not have the same effect and will make you look dumb unless you are wearing monocles and tweed suit. Monocles are cool. |
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exercise_in_futility
Joined: 11 May 2009
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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HOlding a conspicuous "The Economist" in your hand, scoff at people reading the Korea Herald or Korea Times.
Never talk when you can help it:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/fat-guy-mistakenly-thought-of-as-strong,5635/
Carry a book with a title that signifies difficult material. When asked to explain, simply retort, "Oh this? I just started reading it. I like to dabble in genomics from time to time." If further pressed, just make up bullsh&t. Most laypeople will agree with whatever you have to say.
I like to throw around "but what's your metric?" and "there's no metric for something like that!" just for kicks.
Read up on Greek mythology and drop in references in daily conversation. But not too many or you'll be thought an ass, one must not fly too close to the sun. |
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Underwaterbob

Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Location: In Cognito
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't know why you'd want to do this. Speaking as someone of greater than average intelligence, those beneath me (read: all of you) often react with hostility towards my obviously greater intellect. |
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