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ChilgokBlackHole
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 Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:33 am Post subject: Re: Mace or pepper spray in Korea? |
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| I know and see plenty of girls walking home at 2 in the morning half drunk, seriously. It most likely was a random and isolated occurrence, you shouldn't let that taint your view of Korea. My question to you(since Koreans usually aren't that bold towards foreigners) is What were you wearing? Where was this at? Using mace will only get you sued and possibly jailed. |
What difference does it make? |
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Mariella713
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:30 am Post subject: Re: Mace or pepper spray in Korea? |
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| ChilgokBlackHole wrote: |
| balzor wrote: |
| I know and see plenty of girls walking home at 2 in the morning half drunk, seriously. It most likely was a random and isolated occurrence, you shouldn't let that taint your view of Korea. My question to you(since Koreans usually aren't that bold towards foreigners) is What were you wearing? Where was this at? Using mace will only get you sued and possibly jailed. |
What difference does it make? |
I was thinking the exact same thing... |
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Troglodyte
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Why not just carry hairspray, deodorant, or fly spray for that matter? Whatever you spray in their face it's not going to be pleasant. As long as you can get to it in a hurry I don't see why you would necessarily need mace or pepper spray.  |
Pepper spray has range. The other things the perp will have to be 5 feet or closer to be effective. You can pepper spray someone from like 5 meters away in some cases.
The spray doesn't shoot out a "cloud" of liquid. It shoots out a stream so that when you push the button you can then aim the stream at the perp's face. Think of it like a watergun, not like hair spray.
At least that's what they are SUPPOSED to do. |
Pepper spray also has accuracy and power. Unless you have a strong side wind, pepper spray will still hit it's target.
I've seen it used. It's not a stream like a water gun. It's relatively focused and you can aim it, but it is a mist and you don't have to aim it at the eyes. If there is no wind at all, it will hang in the air around whatever it hit. It has a lasting effect. If you spray someone with it they will be blinded for a few minutes and if they wipe their eyes (which is a natural response) they just make it worse by wiping more liquid into their eyes. If you spray it in a closed area, everyone within a few yards of the target will feels the effects to some degree.
Also note that these things have a shelf life. After that, you really ought to throw them away and get a new one.
Mace is probably one of the few defensive weapons that anyone without training can effectively use. All you need is a little cannister in your pocket (or somewhere else you can easily grab it in a flash). I've seen a small woman take down a huge guy with that stuff. In the time it took the sprayed people to recover the sprayer could be long gone.
Regarding home made sprays, don't even think about using them on humans. They are cumbersome, relatively ineffective, and it's easy for an attacker to see it coming. I knew a guy that made pepper spray and put it in those presurizable bottles that you use for spraying insecticide. He used it on wild dogs when he went hiking. I've seen that in action. Against a dog, it worked, but it's not something that you could carry around in your purse, and dogs aren't smart enough to know what you're going to do when you pull it out and aim it at them. Mace/pepper spray is cheap. Don't put your well being at risk to save a buck.
Whether mace/pepper spray are legal, I don't know. Regardless, spraying someone in the face with hairspray is still going to be illegal. Mace canisters are small and concealable. So the only way someone is going to know you are carrying is if you pull it out (presumably to use it). In that case, you'd be better off going to court for possession of something illegal than being attacked. |
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Goon-Yang
Joined: 28 May 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:09 am Post subject: |
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| Carry around a lollipop. Put the candy part in your hand and punch him in the eye or throat with the stick. The problem is the guy has to be real close...as in almost raping you. |
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shininxpinay
Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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came across this topic while researching about the legality of pepper spray. i wanted to update the thread in case anyone else looks into it
i have brought 1 spray between korea and the US twice and never had any problems. however, after giving mine to a friend who had a history of stalkers, i wanted to make sure i wasn't liable in case she had to use it
seems owning pepper spray containing OC (common pepper spray ingredient) is perfectly legal for residents in korea
however, there is a type (CS) that is only used by the police. this is the kind that contains tear gas
i think it's safe to say that the OTC pepper sprays are safe to carry, since tear gas is only supplied to riot police |
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soupsandwich
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| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Small water spritzer (about 1,000 won), some tabasco and water, and you're set. |
....added with jalepeno juice....works every time.
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methdxman
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:13 pm Post subject: Re: Mace or pepper spray in Korea? |
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| Mariella713 wrote: |
| ChilgokBlackHole wrote: |
| balzor wrote: |
| I know and see plenty of girls walking home at 2 in the morning half drunk, seriously. It most likely was a random and isolated occurrence, you shouldn't let that taint your view of Korea. My question to you(since Koreans usually aren't that bold towards foreigners) is What were you wearing? Where was this at? Using mace will only get you sued and possibly jailed. |
What difference does it make? |
I was thinking the exact same thing... |
This is why the terrorists have already won...
Of course it makes a difference! I'm sorry but if you're a woman and you get bothered at night because you're dressed like a prostitute, I have absolutely no compassion for you.
Let's learn to start making smart choices in life without defaulting back to our "civil liberties".
Dress however you want (I certainly do appreciate a little ass vs. class) but know that we live in this thing called "REALITY". |
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soupsandwich
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| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| This is why the terrorists have already won... |
Oh really? |
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soupsandwich
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| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| This is why the terrorists have already won... |
Oh really? |
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NSMatt
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:42 am Post subject: |
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Or a whistle.
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A whistle is useless. Never rely on others to help you. Our social history is riddled with cases of people failing to intervene in an attack.
It's better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6. I say do whatever it takes to defend yourself and worry about the consequences later. |
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methdxman
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:50 am Post subject: |
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I recommend you buy Bas Rutten's Self Defense Videos.
Dang-ga-da-dang-ga-da-dang-ga-da dang! |
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NSMatt
Joined: 29 Dec 2008
Location: London
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:52 am Post subject: Re: Mace or pepper spray in Korea? |
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| methdxman wrote: |
| Mariella713 wrote: |
| ChilgokBlackHole wrote: |
| balzor wrote: |
| I know and see plenty of girls walking home at 2 in the morning half drunk, seriously. It most likely was a random and isolated occurrence, you shouldn't let that taint your view of Korea. My question to you(since Koreans usually aren't that bold towards foreigners) is What were you wearing? Where was this at? Using mace will only get you sued and possibly jailed. |
What difference does it make? |
I was thinking the exact same thing... |
Of course it makes a difference! I'm sorry but if you're a woman and you get bothered at night because you're dressed like a prostitute, I have absolutely no compassion for you.
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There's a difference between attracting attention at a club and being 'bothered/harassed' on the street. A woman dressed provocatively should expect increased attention from men but this doesn't entitle them to harass her. A woman has a right to live her life without the type of harassment described by the OP, regardless of attire.
The idea that sexually appealing clothes increase the likelihood of rape is a falsehood. The majority of rapes are planned. |
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methdxman
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:11 am Post subject: Re: Mace or pepper spray in Korea? |
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| NSMatt wrote: |
| methdxman wrote: |
| Mariella713 wrote: |
| ChilgokBlackHole wrote: |
| balzor wrote: |
| I know and see plenty of girls walking home at 2 in the morning half drunk, seriously. It most likely was a random and isolated occurrence, you shouldn't let that taint your view of Korea. My question to you(since Koreans usually aren't that bold towards foreigners) is What were you wearing? Where was this at? Using mace will only get you sued and possibly jailed. |
What difference does it make? |
I was thinking the exact same thing... |
Of course it makes a difference! I'm sorry but if you're a woman and you get bothered at night because you're dressed like a prostitute, I have absolutely no compassion for you.
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There's a difference between attracting attention at a club and being 'bothered/harassed' on the street. A woman dressed provocatively should expect increased attention from men but this doesn't entitle them to harass her. A woman has a right to live her life without the type of harassment described by the OP, regardless of attire.
The idea that sexually appealing clothes increase the likelihood of rape is a falsehood. The majority of rapes are planned. |
Yes, and I also have the "right" to wear a real Rolex in the streets of Mogadishu if I want. Rights don't really matter in this world though. We don't live in a utopia.
Also, I never said that sexually appealing clothes increases the likelihood of rape, but it sure hell increases the chances of you getting gawked at or talked to. And if that does happen and you don't like it, well you really have to make a choice: Do I walk home alone with my mini skirt that doesn't cover my ass cheeks or do I cover up?
Has nothing to do with what's right or what's wrong, it has to do with whether or not you want to be comfortable walking home. |
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ippy
Joined: 25 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:10 am Post subject: |
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if youre talking about comfort, well thats utterly different! Girls, kick off the heels, pull out the flats and walk home without blisters and achy feet! yay!
Thing is, its not just you, youre like the tip of the iceberg in this regard, but rape isnt about being fancied by some letchy bloke who finds you SO captivating and enticing that he simply has to have you!
Rape isnt about sexual attraction at all. In fact its not about sex.
Its about violence and its about power.
Im not just throwing out some PC lines. Dont take my word for it though, go to ANY national body that deals with rape ('crisis' in the UK for example) and look at their FAQ or Myths about Rape section.
Actually here you go pick any link and look at what they say:
http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=rape+myths |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:37 am Post subject: |
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If you're thinking about carrying a self defense spray in Korea, then you'd better know what you're buying because as Bittybop mentioned, it can get your ass in a lot more jail time than the perp attacking you.
In Korea, the spray must be pump-style, NOT under pressure. If you carry a spray that is under pressure, you may as well be carrying a gun, because that's what it will be considered -- a gas gun. Only police, former police with special permits, and military are allowed that, for example. You might see an old ajoshi guarding your apartment with one, but that's because he was probably a cop before, and has a permit.
Be careful of what you buy on G-market, too. There was a news piece a few years back about these illegal sprays from the USA and elsewhere being sold here, and that the police were trying to track down who bought them, etc. to warn them about legality and take them away.
Pump style only, or else. |
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