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Kiddirts
Joined: 25 Jul 2003
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 Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 5:49 pm Post subject: clearing... |
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| I'm clearling 6.0 but I work almost 200 hours a month and that's not including traveling time. How much outside work is expected in a uni job? Could I get one with a BA and over a yr. experience in Korea? |
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mishlert
Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: On the 3rd rock from the sun
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| Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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| I have an E-1 visa and my salary is in the 3 million range (pre-tax, housing included). |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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| mishlert wrote: |
| I have an E-1 visa and my salary is in the 3 million range (pre-tax, housing included). |
w/o housing how much do you make? Not saying that you can't count it but why not give two figures
with and without housing. |
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mishlert
Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: On the 3rd rock from the sun
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| Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Without housing I get 2.5 (pre-tax) |
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matthewwoodford
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: Location, location, location.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Real Reality wrote: |
matthewwoodford wrote,
"Hook me up with one of those 12-hour-a-week 3-mil-a-month jobs pronto, please!"
Are you Korean? |
No. Why would you think that? Are you taking the piss? |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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matthewwoodford,
If you are a foreigner, then you cannot be allowed to get the position.
In the case of a national or a public University, a foreigner is not permitted to be a full-time professor.
http://www.moj.go.kr/immi/08_english/02_business/e_1.html |
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sid
Joined: 02 Feb 2003
Location: Berkshire, England
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| Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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Real Reality I will try and help you out by making a more relevant comparison. On the following web page there are profiles of the Korean studies staff at Sheffield University in England. Two of the staff are Korean. They teach Korean and give academic lectures about Korea in English. They have PhDs from English Universities. They have published research about Korea in English. They bear little obvious resemblance to the long-serving but under-qualified Canadian EFLers who prevail in most of the English language centers at Korean universities. They are Professors.
http://www.shef.ac.uk/uni/academic/D-H/eas/People/Korean_Staff.shtml |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 2:59 am Post subject: |
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| but from what I have seen even highly qualified foreigners (guys with PHDs who write) have a hard time getting the same deal that Korea profs do. |
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matthewwoodford
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
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| Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 6:10 am Post subject: |
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I see. Thanks. Maybe they'd accept a real professor, not that I am one... |
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Homer
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| Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 8:36 am Post subject: |
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| but from what I have seen even highly qualified foreigners (guys with PHDs who write) have a hard time getting the same deal that Korea profs do. |
Indeed.
However, the reverse is also true.
Korean profs that go and teach in western nations have it much harder then western profs there.
Its the way it works. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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I don't agree with that. You never had an Asian professor in your school?
It is no more difficult for them to get a position in the west than it is for anyone else.
and with efforts to diversify faculity in the states it might even be easier for them. |
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
I don't agree with that. You never had an Asian professor in your school?
It is no more difficult for them to get a position in the west than it is for anyone else.
and with efforts to diversify faculity in the states it might even be easier for them. |
Generally, most countries require that the person doing the hiring cite that they tried to hire a citizen but could not fill the void with qualified citizens for they must sponsor a work visa to get a non-citizen to work in the job.
So, yes, it's substantially harder for a non-citizen to get a university job because a university can't even consider sponsoring a visa so long as a citizen is qualified and willing to work for the money offered. |
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Tricky Woo
Joined: 15 Apr 2004
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr. Pink wrote: |
Let's look at the situation of SESSIONAL LECTURERS at Canadian Universities:
a) work more hours than tenured profs.
b) almost never get tenure, as they don't stay long enough (10-15yrs is needed min.)
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I generally agree with your argument, but I have to quible with this. I know several profs who have gotten tenure in under ten years. In fact, my friend was offered a 5-yr tenure track position at another school, and started teaching the very semester after finishing his Ph.D. But he's the exception, as he won a best paper award at Princeton (and he went to Carleton, btw).
Just saying fast-track tenure is not unheard of at all. From my vantage as a student, sessionals are sessionals 'cause its just obvious they aren't as good at lecturing, marking fairly, etc. |
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Crois
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: You could be next so watch out.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 3:19 am Post subject: |
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I used to make 6m being a male prostitute in this country.
I sh it ou not  |
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phaedrus
Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Location: I'm comin' to get ya.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 3:28 am Post subject: |
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| Crois wrote: |
I used to make 6m being a male prostitute in this country.
I sh it ou not |
Did you have mixed clientele? |
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