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machoman

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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 3:18 am Post subject: |
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| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
I tried to get back into reading, and successfully got through about 5 or 6 books, but with Fall TV in full swing, it's game over. |
ever listen to a podcast? |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 4:09 am Post subject: |
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| BaldTeacher wrote: |
I'll admit that I enjoy Ari Gold, but besides him it's garbage.
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Mostly agree, but Johnny Drama is pretty good too. |
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mcviking
Joined: 24 Mar 2009 Location: 'Fantastic' America
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:59 am Post subject: |
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| If only real law enforcement was as exciting as those shows make it out to be. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| mcviking wrote: |
| If only real law enforcement was as exciting as those shows make it out to be. |
Ha, ain't that the truth. |
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geldedgoat
Joined: 05 Mar 2009
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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I disagree entirely. Dexter is a great show with great character development. Yes, most of it is exagerrated, but that's the point. Dexter is emotionless and methodical to the extreme, Deb is neurotic to the extreme, Rita was desperate-woman-living-in-a-fantasy-world to the extreme, Batista is latino twinkie (or whatever the latino version is) steorotype to the extreme, etc. Then there's the over-the-top serial killing. All of these extremes are intentional to develop a fantasy atmosphere and should in no way detract from the story-telling and plot and character development of the show.
And I really have to roll my eyes at the criticism of Dexter's character and Michael C. Hall's acting as boring. There's absolutely no better way to portray that character.
Is it ground-breaking? I have never seen a TV show that I would give that label, for the same reasons Draz already mentioned. But is it drivel and nothing more than mindless entertainment? No, not by a long shot. It is in the cream of the crop of the last decade's worth of TV. |
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Bloopity Bloop

Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Location: Seoul yo
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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| geldedgoat wrote: |
I disagree entirely. Dexter is a great show with great character development. Yes, most of it is exagerrated, but that's the point. Dexter is emotionless and methodical to the extreme, Deb is neurotic to the extreme, Rita was desperate-woman-living-in-a-fantasy-world to the extreme, Batista is latino twinkie (or whatever the latino version is) steorotype to the extreme, etc. Then there's the over-the-top serial killing. All of these extremes are intentional to develop a fantasy atmosphere and should in no way detract from the story-telling and plot and character development of the show.
And I really have to roll my eyes at the criticism of Dexter's character and Michael C. Hall's acting as boring. There's absolutely no better way to portray that character.
Is it ground-breaking? I have never seen a TV show that I would give that label, for the same reasons Draz already mentioned. But is it drivel and nothing more than mindless entertainment? No, not by a long shot. It is in the cream of the crop of the last decade's worth of TV. |
SUPER LOL if you believe this--especially about it being one of the top shows of the last decade. HILARIOUS!!!!
Also, it would logically follow from what you wrote that you agree Dexter is a boring character. So fine, even if Hall plays Dexter better than anyone has ever played any character in the history of film, the character of Dexter is still boring; which begs the question: why was it even green lighted in the first place?
Dexter zombie voice: "Why do I kill people? What is wrong with me?" <-- Pretty much the whole character in a few sentences. WOW!
MEDIOCRE show x 10000000000000000000000 |
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JMO

Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| How can there be character development if he is "emotionless and methodical to the extreme"? There is nowhere else to go after extreme. Any character that is at the extreme is basically a caricature. |
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geldedgoat
Joined: 05 Mar 2009
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
| SUPER LOL if you believe this--especially about it being one of the top shows of the last decade. HILARIOUS!!!! |
Your tone is more than a little over-the-top for discussion of a TV show. We all have opinions; there's little need to act superior because you have a different one.
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| Also, it would logically follow from what you wrote that you agree Dexter is a boring character. |
No, it doesn't. I disagree with your criticism that the character is boring. His emotionlessness is conveyed in his tone and behavior. You dismiss this as boring, and I think that dismissal lacks insight.
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| How can there be character development if he is "emotionless and methodical to the extreme"? There is nowhere else to go after extreme. |
The development is away from the extreme. That's been the entire point of the last few seasons. Dexter's relationship with his father is repeatedly questioned as his 'code' is challenged again and again, and he begins to discover a need to more than merely act human. Deb's character was forced to change through her interactions with the Ice Truck Killer (which also initiated the change in Dexter). Rita's didn't change much, and that might be the explanation for what happened at the end of last season (I'm trying to avoid spoilers).
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| Any character that is at the extreme is basically a caricature. |
Yep, and that's what we see at the beginning. |
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Bloopity Bloop

Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Location: Seoul yo
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| geldedgoat wrote: |
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| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
| SUPER LOL if you believe this--especially about it being one of the top shows of the last decade. HILARIOUS!!!! |
Your tone is more than a little over-the-top for discussion of a TV show. We all have opinions; there's little need to act superior because you have a different one. |
I'm still laughing. LOL. You mad?
I believe you started it with the eye-rolling. Who's trying to come off as superior?
LOL one of the best of the decade? HAHAHAHA. If I say something like, "Deuce Bigalo: European Gigolo" was the best movie of it's time, I wouldn't get hot and bothered if someone laughed at me.
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| Also, it would logically follow from what you wrote that you agree Dexter is a boring character. |
No, it doesn't. I disagree with your criticism that the character is boring. His emotionlessness is conveyed in his tone and behavior. You dismiss this as boring, and I think that dismissal lacks insight. |
Exactly WHAT is compelling about his character? And LOL once again at an emotionless character NOT being boring. If you met someone with absolutely no emotions in real life, have fun trying to be interested in them. |
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geldedgoat
Joined: 05 Mar 2009
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
| I'm still laughing. LOL. You mad? |
I apologize. I mistakenly assumed you created a thread on a forum for the purposes of discussion. Apparently your interest goes little further than throwing s**t at the wall.
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| Exactly WHAT is compelling about his character? And LOL once again at an emotionless character NOT being boring. |
I take it you also thought Hannibal Lecter and John Preston were boring characters? |
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Bloopity Bloop

Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Location: Seoul yo
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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| geldedgoat wrote: |
| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
| I'm still laughing. LOL. You mad? |
I apologize. I mistakenly assumed you created a thread on a forum for the purposes of discussion. Apparently your interest goes little further than throwing s**t at the wall.
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| Exactly WHAT is compelling about his character? And LOL once again at an emotionless character NOT being boring. |
I take it you also thought Hannibal Lecter and John Preston were boring characters? |
Someone gets another Super LOL for putting Dexter in the same category as Hannibal. To call once again on Deuce Bigalow, that would be like comparing Rob Schneider to Bill Murray just because they're both "comedians�.
For someone who accused me of being over the top, you sure seem to be getting genuinely mad about an anonymous opinion in the net.
I also like how you ignored the rest of my first point after I poked a tiny bit of fun at you. |
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drkalbi

Joined: 06 Aug 2006
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 2:06 am Post subject: |
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9.2 rating from IMDB suggests otherwise. Here is a review as well;
Dexter will never disappoint. Each and every episode is a work of art, and it never gets boring or old. To start, we have excellent deliveries from Michael C. Hall as the serial killer (yet a like-able one) known as Dexter Morgan. Add "The Excorcism Of Emily Rose" star Jennifer Carpenter, who plays Dexter's sometimes moody sister, Deb.
It's a hard accomplishment to get someone to actually love a serial killer. But Dexter is one of those few attempts that works. It's not forced upon you- the show doesn't shove the whole "well this serial killer had a terrible childhood..." in your face. And it doesn't need to in order to get you to love its main character. You just do.
Michael C. Hall can play any emotion he's handed. Jennifer Carpenter fits her character perfectly, as does everyone else in the cast.
Then there's the actual story lines. It's not clich�. It's actually scary and chilling. It keeps you guessing. It's one of those mysteries that is very difficult to solve, but it still keeps your interest.
'Dexter' can also be hilarious when it wants to be, depressing when it wants to be and especially thrilling when it wants to be. And it doesn't come across as trying too hard.
Strong writing, clever dialogue, talented stars. It all makes for a wonderful TV show. |
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DorkothyParker

Joined: 11 Apr 2009 Location: Jeju
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Dexter is an ideal anti-hero. He portrays something inside us all to an extreme.
He's not emotionless like a zombie. You can see he wants to react in an emotional way, but he doesn't know how. Although most people don't feel that way their whole life, who here hasn't been delivered a shock and laughed when they were meant to cry?
I also love all the awkward moments in Dexter because, well, I'm awkward.
OK, so it's not The Wire (my husband LOVES this show, I can't watch it) or the Sopranos. But it is worthy to be grouped with all the other Showtime or HBO Original series.
I am currently watching the following shows:
Dexter
Fringe
Weeds
Project Runway
Boardwalk Empire
Mad Men (still on season 2, no spoilers!)
It's Always Sunny...
The Venture Bros.
Caprica (when it returns)
Breaking Bad (when it returns)
(Don't know if this helps gauge my tastes)
PS. Deb needs to eat a porkchop. |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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| drkalbi wrote: |
9.2 rating from IMDB suggests otherwise.
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Well, to be fair, that is just a user's rating - very unscientific. The OP's point was that he could not understand why so many people liked the show.
As for the review, that is just opinion as well. BTW, was that your review or someone else's, or a combination?
For the record I think the show is ok but I don't consider it "must see tv" or anything. In fact, I stopped watching it after the first season. |
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RMNC

Joined: 21 Jul 2010
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:24 am Post subject: |
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| Gotta agree with the OP. It's incredibly boring when put in contrast to Deadwood or Boardwalk Empire. |
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