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Happy Clappy
Joined: 17 Oct 2010
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Korean style ramyeon is an abomination.
No subtlety whatsoever, just overpowering salt and chilli water.
Ramen in Japan and China is a whole different animal, with subtle meat stock broths, specially cured eggs, specially cooked beansprouts, slices of fatty meat etc. |
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shinramyun
Joined: 31 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Happy Clappy wrote: |
Korean style ramyeon is an abomination.
No subtlety whatsoever, just overpowering salt and chilli water.
Ramen in Japan and China is a whole different animal, with subtle meat stock broths, specially cured eggs, specially cooked beansprouts, slices of fatty meat etc. |
Probably because you are comparing an instant ramen to home made ramen, you dolt. |
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Bloopity Bloop
Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| shinramyun wrote: |
| Happy Clappy wrote: |
Korean style ramyeon is an abomination.
No subtlety whatsoever, just overpowering salt and chilli water.
Ramen in Japan and China is a whole different animal, with subtle meat stock broths, specially cured eggs, specially cooked beansprouts, slices of fatty meat etc. |
Probably because you are comparing an instant ramen to home made ramen, you dolt. |
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shinramyun
Joined: 31 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
| shinramyun wrote: |
| Happy Clappy wrote: |
Korean style ramyeon is an abomination.
No subtlety whatsoever, just overpowering salt and chilli water.
Ramen in Japan and China is a whole different animal, with subtle meat stock broths, specially cured eggs, specially cooked beansprouts, slices of fatty meat etc. |
Probably because you are comparing an instant ramen to home made ramen, you dolt. |
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Obey me. People love me. |
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Happy Clappy
Joined: 17 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| shinramyun wrote: |
| Happy Clappy wrote: |
Korean style ramyeon is an abomination.
No subtlety whatsoever, just overpowering salt and chilli water.
Ramen in Japan and China is a whole different animal, with subtle meat stock broths, specially cured eggs, specially cooked beansprouts, slices of fatty meat etc. |
Probably because you are comparing an instant ramen to home made ramen, you dolt. |
No. I'm comparing Korean ramen in restaurants to ramen in Japanese and Chinese restaurants dolt. |
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Bloopity Bloop
Joined: 26 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| shinramyun wrote: |
| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
| shinramyun wrote: |
| Happy Clappy wrote: |
Korean style ramyeon is an abomination.
No subtlety whatsoever, just overpowering salt and chilli water.
Ramen in Japan and China is a whole different animal, with subtle meat stock broths, specially cured eggs, specially cooked beansprouts, slices of fatty meat etc. |
Probably because you are comparing an instant ramen to home made ramen, you dolt. |
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Obey me. People love me. |
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DeMayonnaise
Joined: 02 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| I eat Ramien but boil onions and other veggies, cook the noodles and dump the water out. Then put in tuna, cheese and some of the flavoring. I don't think it's so horrible like that. But if you eat the instant kind a lot, it probably isn't good! |
I do something like this, but I only add hot dogs, Spam, crappy processed Korean cheese, and some frozen mandu. Sure is healthy! Oh man, bad thread for 4:00... |
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shinramyun
Joined: 31 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:00 am Post subject: |
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| Happy Clappy wrote: |
| shinramyun wrote: |
| Happy Clappy wrote: |
Korean style ramyeon is an abomination.
No subtlety whatsoever, just overpowering salt and chilli water.
Ramen in Japan and China is a whole different animal, with subtle meat stock broths, specially cured eggs, specially cooked beansprouts, slices of fatty meat etc. |
Probably because you are comparing an instant ramen to home made ramen, you dolt. |
No. I'm comparing Korean ramen in restaurants to ramen in Japanese and Chinese restaurants dolt. |
Exactly which korean ramen restaurant only sells ramen that is overpowered with salt and chili powder? What you are describing is an instant ramen. |
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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| shinramyun wrote: |
| Happy Clappy wrote: |
Korean style ramyeon is an abomination.
No subtlety whatsoever, just overpowering salt and chilli water.
Ramen in Japan and China is a whole different animal, with subtle meat stock broths, specially cured eggs, specially cooked beansprouts, slices of fatty meat etc. |
Probably because you are comparing an instant ramen to home made ramen, you dolt. |
That's because in Korea, they serve instant ramen in restaurants.
In China and Japan, they serve homemade ramen in restaurants.
The only place in Korea where I've seen homemade ramen was at a Japanese restaurant. And the hangeul said "ramen" not "ramyun." Homemade ramen is not Korean food. |
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Ukiyo-e
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dory
Joined: 27 May 2010
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:28 am Post subject: |
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case in point. instant ramen. stop the comparisons. |
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liveinkorea316
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:40 am Post subject: |
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I don't know who these guys are on here saying that all you get in Korean restaurants is instand noodles. I am picking you have never been to Korea. Or if you have, you have no Korean friends and never get out and try things much.
Korea has a couple of very famous noodle dishes that anyone one this board knows. One is called Kalguksoo and the other is Guk-soo. There are many many variations of the above types of noodles depending on what the person wants in there.
There are special Kalguksoo and Guksoo restaurants and I have been to ones where they make the noodles on site. Other ones use bought materials but they are freshly made not like the stuff you can get and cook in the supermarkets.
Of course the cheap shops will serve you instant stuff if you are paying them just $1.50 for it!!!!! |
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:15 am Post subject: |
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| liveinkorea316 wrote: |
I don't know who these guys are on here saying that all you get in Korean restaurants is instand noodles. I am picking you have never been to Korea. Or if you have, you have no Korean friends and never get out and try things much.
Korea has a couple of very famous noodle dishes that anyone one this board knows. One is called Kalguksoo and the other is Guk-soo. There are many many variations of the above types of noodles depending on what the person wants in there.
There are special Kalguksoo and Guksoo restaurants and I have been to ones where they make the noodles on site. Other ones use bought materials but they are freshly made not like the stuff you can get and cook in the supermarkets.
Of course the cheap shops will serve you instant stuff if you are paying them just $1.50 for it!!!!! |
kalguksu =/= ramen.
kalguksu = knife-cut noodles
ramen = hand-pulled noodles
The broth is completely different too.
The point was, all three countries have restaurants that serve ramen. It's called lamian in China and ramyeon in Korea, but obviously these words are cognates and ostensibly referring to the same noodle dish. But only in Korea do the restaurants serve you instant flash-fried, freeze-dried noodles from a package!
In China or Japan, it would be COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE for a sit-down restaurant to serve instant noodles. No one would pay money for it! |
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liveinkorea316
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:39 am Post subject: |
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You are simply misunderstanding the food culture here in Korea redaxe.
People in Korea eat the instant Ramyeon in those restaurants as a meal on the run and they are mostly served in small Kimbap houses as a quick snack. There entire appeal is that they take less than 3 minutes to be served and they are tasty.
If you are trying to compare noodles that people would sit down and eat for dinner as a going out type meal like on a date or just with family then you are talking about guk-soo and kal-guk-soo. As I said there are restaurants where the ENTIRE menu is different variants on gook-soo. My favourite is bibim-guk-soo where the noodles are drained then mixed with green and coloured vegetables and chilli powder. There are many different meat and seafood ones aswell.
You are not comparing apples with apples. The Chinese and Japanese noodles you are talking about might be for eating on the run but they would also be good for eating out.
In Korea I have never ordered ramyeon when eating out. It is considered a snack food here.
It would be equally as pointless to compare Western noodles because we just don't eat them and they are snacks too so OBVIOUSLY they aren't gonna be as nicely prepared as China or Japan. |
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Easy Rider
Joined: 20 Oct 2010
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:46 am Post subject: |
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You are simply misunderstanding the food culture here in Korea redaxe.
People in Korea eat the instant Ramyeon in those restaurants as a meal on the run and they are mostly served in small Kimbap houses as a quick snack. There entire appeal is that they take less than 3 minutes to be served and they are tasty.
If you are trying to compare noodles that people would sit down and eat for dinner as a going out type meal like on a date or just with family then you are talking about guk-soo and kal-guk-soo. As I said there are restaurants where the ENTIRE menu is different variants on gook-soo. My favourite is bibim-guk-soo where the noodles are drained then mixed with green and coloured vegetables and chilli powder. There are many different meat and seafood ones aswell.
You are not comparing apples with apples. The Chinese and Japanese noodles you are talking about might be for eating on the run but they would also be good for eating out.
In Korea I have never ordered ramyeon when eating out. It is considered a snack food here.
It would be equally as pointless to compare Western noodles because we just don't eat them and they are snacks too so OBVIOUSLY they aren't gonna be as nicely prepared as China or Japan. |
Nobody is missunderstanding Korean food culture. Well all know as much about it as you know, I'm sure (I know I do.)
Nobody is saying Korea doesn't have good NOODLES.
But we are talking about Ramen noodles or ramyeon if you will as they are served in restaurants typical of the 3 countries.
Noone is comparing kalguksoo to ramen except you.
Now it is not worth getting worked up about and is certainly not something I hold dear but the fact is that Ramyean / Ramen / Lamien all refer to the same TYPE of noodle dish and the fact is Japan and China do it much better than Korea - for what that's worth (not a big deal, just a good honest fact.)
In fact if you want a ding dong I'll throw udon into the mix.
Again a lot plainer and lesser quality in korea than in Japan and China. Substandard broth and poor added ingredients (In my subjective opinion) compared to the lovely meat based stock in Japan and China.
I've not had knife cut noodles in Japan or China so can't comment but my local Kalguksoo joint is brilliant and they add lots of onions and clams and I think a shrimp paste which really adds a wonderful flavor!
As far as buckwheat noodles go I've had them in Korea (nnengmyeon) and Japan (soba.) I'd say they are eqaul, Korean being nice and chewy and the Japanese being more subtle but both are good *(see I'm not trying to bash Korean 'noodles')
Fact is when we talk about RAMEN Korea just doesn't do it too great. So what, big deal. Like I said, just a fact (and I'm sure some people prefer the korean dish! Taste is subjective.) |
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