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Is job market really that bad?
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eslwriter



Joined: 15 Sep 2010
Location: A dot on the planet with an exaggerated sense of importance.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your comment Chollian.

In what way - as you suggested - was my comment "incredibly stupid? You don't seem to mind shouting out harsh and vapid generalizations but you are noticeably weak on the supporting argument.

Let me address just one of your comments because frankly there is just too much to ponder. You said something like this, "There is nothing wrong with having expectations."

Actually, you are quite wrong in that regard, an error rooted in lack of experience, reflection or education, I suppose. I would suggest that expectations can be hazardous. Preconceived ideas about what one expects to experience, the kind of work one expects to find, the standards with which we measure satisfaction can have a negative impact on one's real experience in this country.

The best advice I received about travel was this: expect nothing and you will be able to find joy in everything.

That may be a little deep for you because you are unable to make even simple distinctions like the difference between "plans and goals" and "expectations."

BTW, if you are going to quote posters on Dave's try to learn how to use the quote bottom. Just because you use sloppy thinking doesn't mean your postings have to look messy.

Here endeth the lesson.
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tanklor1



Joined: 13 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chollian wrote:
eslwriter wrote:
Here's an observation.

Sometimes, people who come to Korea with fixed ideas set themselves up for a rather rude awakening.

When I see people using words and phrases like that's not negotiable, or we want this and that - and have not even arrived yet - I start to wonder if Korea is the right place for them in the first place.


What an incredibly stupid comment to make. There is nothing wrong with having expectations. Some people want to work with certain age groups while others want to accomodate pets. The OP has not exactly said anything that could be regarded as uppity. You act as though people are devoid of other options yet we know China is right next door.

You might be too afraid to try other things but don't act like everyone else is dependent on Korea. In the meantime please carry on taking one for the team. Rolling Eyes


You haven't been here long have you? By having expectations i.e. rejecting any offers that aren't "Perfect" a person will never know what the other side of the coin is.

Examples:

To people who "Only" work in public: odds are you're missing out on smaller classes,higher pay, better texts and an instant group of friends to hang out with.

To people who "Only" want to live in and around Seoul: The best foreign communities are often the smallest and pay goes a longer way then it does in and around Seoul.

To people who "Only" want to teach High school or adults: Sounds likes a great idea until you get there and are stone walled out of a classroom by a bunch of timid young adults.

Rejecting offers based solely on preconditioned conceptions about an industry that a person has little to no real actual knowledge of is kind of not on the smart-side if you catch my drift.
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eslwriter



Joined: 15 Sep 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very well put.
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lithium



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:20 am    Post subject: Re: Is job market really that bad? Reply with quote

Oh, and I think we're pretty cute, but not drop dead hot

What?
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