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oops! Did I just a commit a Korean social faux pas?
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interestedinhanguk



Joined: 23 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Catfisher wrote:
Vagabundo wrote:
one of the advantages of not eating rice and not eating their soup (usually fishy, etc) is not having to worry at all about these supposed social faux pas.

(what's the plural of faux pas, btw?)

bah, I've told them many times white rice isn't nutritional Very Happy

(usually in response to questions, why no rice?)


Well, when I said never tell them that about rice, I was being a bit sarastic.
The best was when I explained to a teacher "White rice is a simple sugar, no nutrition."
Teacher: "No, this rice no put sugar. Very healthy."


Since when is rice a sugar? It's a complex carbohydrate (starch). It's refined and contains little nutritional value beyond its caloric content, but it's no sugar.
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RMNC



Joined: 21 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Starches break down into glucose, just like sugars break down into sucrose. Both are sugars that raise blood insulin levels and increase fat storage. Sugars are just a more complex version of starches. A piece of bread, for example is essentially a distilled slice of sugar, and a bowl of rice is a bowl of watered-down sugar.
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PastorYoon



Joined: 25 Jun 2010
Location: Sea of Japan

PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lunar Groove Gardener wrote:
Wait, you got your own bowl of soup?


hahaha
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Catfisher



Joined: 10 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RMNC wrote:
Starches break down into glucose, just like sugars break down into sucrose. Both are sugars that raise blood insulin levels and increase fat storage. Sugars are just a more complex version of starches. A piece of bread, for example is essentially a distilled slice of sugar, and a bowl of rice is a bowl of watered-down sugar.


BOOYAH interestedinhangukmoneyonly
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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Catfisher wrote:
RMNC wrote:
Starches break down into glucose, just like sugars break down into sucrose. Both are sugars that raise blood insulin levels and increase fat storage. Sugars are just a more complex version of starches. A piece of bread, for example is essentially a distilled slice of sugar, and a bowl of rice is a bowl of watered-down sugar.


BOOYAH interestedinhangukmoneyonly



http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sugar
�noun
1.
a sweet, crystalline substance, C 1 2 H 2 2 O 1 1 , obtained chiefly from the juice of the sugarcane and the sugar beet, and present in sorghum, maple sap, etc.: used extensively as an ingredient and flavoring of certain foods and as a fermenting agent in the manufacture of certain alcoholic beverages; sucrose. Compare beet sugar, cane sugar.
2.
Chemistry . a member of the same class of carbohydrates, as lactose, glucose, or fructose.
3.
( sometimes initial capital letter ) an affectionate or familiar term of address (sometimes offensive when used to strangers, casual acquaintances, subordinates, etc., esp. by a male to a female).
4.
a word formerly used in communications to represent the letter S.

While rice might not be good for you it is not sugar
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interestedinhanguk



Joined: 23 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RMNC wrote:
Starches break down into glucose, just like sugars break down into sucrose.


It is not sugar. You could argue it is, in essence (white) sugar. But that does not actually make it sugar.
Also, brown rice, and any other starch will break down into sugars. So, by your (and Catfisher's) logic, your bowl of brown rice is a bowl of sugar with some vitamins.
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murmanjake



Joined: 21 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skipperoo wrote:
murmanjake wrote:
Ralphie wrote:
For anyone who is interested, here is a straightforward intro to Korean etiquette (see Table Manners): http://www.lifeinkorea.com/food/f-manners.cfm


From your list:

Chew food with your closed mouth and do not make noises while chewing.

Hmm...


Is that so odd? Chewing with one's mouth open is one of the most irritating things in the world.


The point being that Koreans don't typically chew with their mouths closed.

Just offer a Korean coworker some gum and watch it in action.
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Kurtz



Joined: 05 Jan 2007
Location: ples bilong me

PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

interestedinhanguk wrote:
I've noticed rice is always served on the left side of the soup. I always move it to the right. A lot of the time, that soup bowl is searing hot (thus the boiling soup). Since I'm right-handed, like most of the world, it's pretty easy to burn myself when I'm eating out of the rice bowl on the left.


Never have the rice facing away from you either, heaven forbid!

I made this fatal error, there were stirrings at the dining table, some muffled sounds where upon an English speaking teacher said "YOU have the rice different to US, YOU are different to US" Rolling Eyes
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Vagabundo



Joined: 26 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

like I said.. it's even more fun not to eat rice at all.

that really gets them confused and you don't have to bother with the inane "rice etiquette".

ditto with the mostly nasty fishy soup(s).
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okelleyas



Joined: 07 Nov 2010
Location: SK

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This actually happened to me the other day. Apparently, Koreans have soup on the right side because during a ceremony for dead people/ancestors, the soup is place on the left side. So, my Korean friend moved my soup for me after the server ahd put it on the left side and proceeded to explain the reasoning behind it. Makes sense, I suppose.
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Sector7G



Joined: 24 May 2008

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

okelleyas wrote:
This actually happened to me the other day. Apparently, Koreans have soup on the right side because during a ceremony for dead people/ancestors, the soup is place on the left side. So, my Korean friend moved my soup for me after the server ahd put it on the left side and proceeded to explain the reasoning behind it. Makes sense, I suppose.


I wonder if any of those who had ever moved my bowls around without explaining the reasoning ever thought to write a thread asking if they had committed a faux pas themselves after seeing me grit my teeth. Mad
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Vagabundo



Joined: 26 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sector7G wrote:
okelleyas wrote:
This actually happened to me the other day. Apparently, Koreans have soup on the right side because during a ceremony for dead people/ancestors, the soup is place on the left side. So, my Korean friend moved my soup for me after the server ahd put it on the left side and proceeded to explain the reasoning behind it. Makes sense, I suppose.


I wonder if any of those who had ever moved my bowls around without explaining the reasoning ever thought to write a thread asking if they had committed a faux pas themselves after seeing me grit my teeth. Mad


no bowls = no moving them around

problem solved (for both parties)

you're welcome.
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Sector7G



Joined: 24 May 2008

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vagabundo wrote:


no bowls = no moving them around

problem solved (for both parties)

you're welcome.


Yeah, well, thanks for the tip, but I like rice and most of the soups too - I think I must have some Asian in me.

Besides, it's not just bowls. They turn the serving trays around too.
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Vagabundo



Joined: 26 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sector7G wrote:
Vagabundo wrote:


no bowls = no moving them around

problem solved (for both parties)

you're welcome.


Besides, it's not just bowls. They turn the serving trays around too.


Shocked

how dare they Wink


something to be said for eating alone!

(another things that freaks them out, you have the double whammy, no rice and no having to eat together (though occassional is fine)

I'm a fan of killing two birds with one stone.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sector7G wrote:
Vagabundo wrote:


no bowls = no moving them around

problem solved (for both parties)

you're welcome.


Yeah, well, thanks for the tip, but I like rice and most of the soups too - I think I must have some Asian in me.

Besides, it's not just bowls. They turn the serving trays around too.


Random Korean Person: (turns the tray around)

Foreigner : (Turns tray back around and keeps eating.)

RKP " But Koreans eat it this way"

Foreigner: "Sorry to be the one that tells you this, but I am not Korean."
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