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kangnamdragon
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Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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| lastat06513 wrote: |
3. Also, as mentioned earlier in the thread, as the "Despised Leader" passes through each station, a throng of people would line up to give "support" as he past by. As the trains collided, maybe it was when they were organizing that event. |
Possible, but it happened nine hours after he passed through. |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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| Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Keep in mind the way information is past along through North Korea. And the way things are kept a secret to thward any "terrorist" plot again him, even from his own people.
They are kept in the dark as much as we are.
And, I said it was only a factor, not fact... |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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No one thinks it might have been some weapons blast?
Maybe on a train behind the dear leader was a nice new cargo of bombs or something, and it exploded.
Wait... maybe we'll find that there was some nuclear fallout. |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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| Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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~~The only way we find out something like that is when we gradually see our hair fall out.
WAIT! ~~That happens already from the acid rain,
shucks....! 
p.s.~Love the avitar.....so politically "incorrect", but hilarious! |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:01 am Post subject: |
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| lastat06513 wrote: |
~~The only way we find out something like that is when we gradually see our hair fall out.
WAIT! ~~That happens already from the acid rain,
shucks....!
p.s.~Love the avitar.....so politically "incorrect", but hilarious! |
Yeah.. and the only reason it's not PC is because it's anti-liberal.
At least for this board. |
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Toby
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Wedded Bliss
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| Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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| In England, North Korea are denying that anyone died, or certainly not that number. Or that was yesterday at least. |
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deepblue
Joined: 07 Apr 2004
Location: Standing on the outside, kickin' stones
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| Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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CBC news:'The disaster occurred Thursday, when a train transporting dynamite touched power lines.'
This would account for the high body total. Now North Korea is asking for aid. They have asked the UN for help. Thousands of houses were leveled |
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Gord
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Leslie Cheswyck
Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile
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| Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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| This is going to put a huge dent in their tourist industry. |
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Bulsajo
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| Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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| deepblue wrote: |
CBC news:'The disaster occurred Thursday, when a train transporting dynamite touched power lines.'
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Here's a link to the article.
http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/04/23/nkorea040423
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On the Chinese side of the border, in the city of Dandong, three hospitals have been waiting for the injured to arrive. The disaster happened just 20 minutes drive away, but so far, none have come.
The border is open to commercial traffic, but North Korea has not taken China up on its offer to take the victims in.
As the world tries to find out what happened, and what help can be sent, North Korea is keeping everyone, including its own people, in the dark. There was not a word about the explosion the North Korean news.
The disaster occurred Thursday, when a train transporting dynamite touched power lines.
The figures are not clear, but it appears the number killed will be in the hundreds, not the thousands as was initially reported. North Korean officials estimate several hundred people were killed and thousands injured in the devastating explosion at the Ryongchon Station, near the border with China.
The Red Cross is rushing to help with tarpaulins, blankets and kitchen utensils. "Those things that people whose home has been destroyed need desperately right now. Those will be the first things there. At the same time we are putting together hospital kits and they will be shipped up there from Pyongyang as soon as possible," said John Sparrow of the Red Cross.
The Red Cross says 54 bodies have been recovered and that hospitals in the area around Ryongchon are overwhelmed with the injured.
The South Korean government says the explosion was an accident, not an assassination attempt on North Korean leader Kim Jong-Il, nor was is an act of sabotage.
"Our government considers the incident deeply regrettable and offers our condolences to the victims and will do all it can do in the spirit of compatriotism and humanitarianism," said Jeong Se-hyun South Korea's unification minister.
Pyongyang has appealed for international assistance, saying it will take foreign aid workers to the scene of the disaster on Saturday. Years of isolation and dictatorship have impoverished North Korea. It is too poor to help the victims, itself.
Written by CBC News Online staff |
This brings up more questions- a train packed to the gills with dynamite?
Where was all that dynamite going?
If Kim Jong Il's train just came through hours before, how did power lines get in the way of trains just a few hours later?
Why did normally secretive North Korea announce to the world that 3000 died?
Why immediately announce that thousands had died when it now appears the number is in the hundreds?
I'm not trying to say this isn't a tragedy and a disaster but why didn't they sit on this a while, and then when they were ready to release the news, attempt to play it down (like they usually do with things that make them look bad)? |
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deepblue
Joined: 07 Apr 2004
Location: Standing on the outside, kickin' stones
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| Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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It is a big shipment of explosives and their 'leader' did just pass through the area. Maybe not everyone feels the same and is starting to act on their feelings.
It is very sad if this was a form of protest, not surprising but very sad.
We'll never know for sure unless the U.N. goes in. Which opens a whole different can of wiggles. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| deepblue wrote: |
| It is a big shipment of explosives and their 'leader' did just pass through the area. Maybe not everyone feels the same and is starting to act on their feelings. |
An assassination attempt gone spectacularly wrong? There are so many things wrong with that I wouldn't know where to begin.
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| It is very sad if this was a form of protest, not surprising but very sad. |
Again, that's pretty bizarre form of 'protest'.
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| We'll never know for sure unless the U.N. goes in. Which opens a whole different can of wiggles. |
The UN going in? In what capacity? Do you mean the Red Cross? According to the article they're already there.
There are certainly some pieces of this puzzle missing, but I don't assasination conspiracy or protest are going to be in the finished picture. |
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Toby
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Wedded Bliss
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| Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Leslie Cheswyck wrote: |
| This is going to put a huge dent in their tourist industry. |
That made me laugh HARD!
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Seems you're right.
I linked that photo from a BBC page directly concerned with the N.K. train blast. I went back just now to check if they were still using it for the train blast story and it has gone. Someone at the BBC has realized their error. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, it certainly would be a freaky angle for a satellite shot... |
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