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Do you use regulation garbage bags?
Always/Almost always
78%
 78%  [ 26 ]
More than 50% of the time
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Less than 50% of the time
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Less than 25% of the time
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Never
12%
 12%  [ 4 ]
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HardyandTiny



Joined: 03 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

can't you put recyclables in a regular bag? Did that law change?
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought you put recycleables into the bin depending on what kind they are -- clear plastic, opaque plastic, glass, etc.
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Zed



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Shakedown Street

PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OiGirl wrote:
I thought you put recycleables into the bin depending on what kind they are -- clear plastic, opaque plastic, glass, etc.
If you live in an area that has a bin.
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HardyandTiny



Joined: 03 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zed wrote:
OiGirl wrote:
I thought you put recycleables into the bin depending on what kind they are -- clear plastic, opaque plastic, glass, etc.
If you live in an area that has a bin.

I used to live in haebangchun, seoul, without bins. Everyone put the recyclables out in regular plastic shopping bags. What a pain in the butt that was...
If they have bins for the recyclable stuff then why not a bin for the non-recyclables?
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Zed



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Shakedown Street

PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I moved into my place in Yongin last year they had a yellow bin for compostables that someone would come by to empty once a week. Half way through the year they took the bin away and made us start buying these tiny little bags for them. I understand the point of user fees for this sort of thing but does it always have to result in generating more waste? Fortunately there were a couple of empty lots near my place and that's where my compost went the remainder of the year.
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HardyandTiny wrote:
Zed wrote:
OiGirl wrote:
I thought you put recycleables into the bin depending on what kind they are -- clear plastic, opaque plastic, glass, etc.
If you live in an area that has a bin.

I used to live in haebangchun, seoul, without bins. Everyone put the recyclables out in regular plastic shopping bags. What a pain in the butt that was...
If they have bins for the recyclable stuff then why not a bin for the non-recyclables?

Isn't the idea that someone will come and take the contents of the bins to a reclamation center? Your non-recyclables are just garbage for the landfill or incinerator.

How about those plastic bags going up in smoke?
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Zed



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Shakedown Street

PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OiGirl wrote:
HardyandTiny wrote:
Zed wrote:
OiGirl wrote:
I thought you put recycleables into the bin depending on what kind they are -- clear plastic, opaque plastic, glass, etc.
If you live in an area that has a bin.

I used to live in haebangchun, seoul, without bins. Everyone put the recyclables out in regular plastic shopping bags. What a pain in the butt that was...
If they have bins for the recyclable stuff then why not a bin for the non-recyclables?

Isn't the idea that someone will come and take the contents of the bins to a reclamation center? Your non-recyclables are just garbage for the landfill or incinerator.

How about those plastic bags going up in smoke?
Unnecessary plastic bags either filling a landfill or poluting the air hardly seems environmentally sound. Can you imagine how much space one day worth of these bags would contribute to a landfill site?
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indiercj



Joined: 30 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gwangjuboy wrote:
No. On a different note, I think wheelie bins would be a good idea. Especially considering that the unsightly piles of rubbish would be removed from the streets. The owner of each wheelie bin could pay a fee to the local government, and this would ensure that those who haven't bought one are much easier to identify, and punish.


If current system changes the way you suggested, I would strongly advise you lock that bin seriously. Not only on the cover but also attach the entire bin on chain in case someone else takes it. That way you won't have to pay for your neighboors' trash. Also buy a hidden camera operating on all hours if you can with a beeper to call you whenever the trash man should empty your safely locked bin!
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Gwangjuboy



Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

indiercj wrote:
Gwangjuboy wrote:
No. On a different note, I think wheelie bins would be a good idea. Especially considering that the unsightly piles of rubbish would be removed from the streets. The owner of each wheelie bin could pay a fee to the local government, and this would ensure that those who haven't bought one are much easier to identify, and punish.


If current system changes the way you suggested, I would strongly advise you lock that bin seriously. Not only on the cover but also attach the entire bin on chain in case someone else takes it. That way you won't have to pay for your neighboors' trash. Also buy a hidden camera operating on all hours if you can with a beeper to call you whenever the trash man should empty your safely locked bin!


In the UK it works just fine, and we have a much higher crime rate than Korea.
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HardyandTiny



Joined: 03 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gwangjuboy wrote:
indiercj wrote:
Gwangjuboy wrote:
No. On a different note, I think wheelie bins would be a good idea. Especially considering that the unsightly piles of rubbish would be removed from the streets. The owner of each wheelie bin could pay a fee to the local government, and this would ensure that those who haven't bought one are much easier to identify, and punish.


If current system changes the way you suggested, I would strongly advise you lock that bin seriously. Not only on the cover but also attach the entire bin on chain in case someone else takes it. That way you won't have to pay for your neighboors' trash. Also buy a hidden camera operating on all hours if you can with a beeper to call you whenever the trash man should empty your safely locked bin!


In the UK it works just fine, and we have a much higher crime rate than Korea.

You mean each person has a wheelie bin? what is this idea exactly?
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Gwangjuboy



Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HardyandTiny wrote:
Gwangjuboy wrote:
indiercj wrote:
Gwangjuboy wrote:
No. On a different note, I think wheelie bins would be a good idea. Especially considering that the unsightly piles of rubbish would be removed from the streets. The owner of each wheelie bin could pay a fee to the local government, and this would ensure that those who haven't bought one are much easier to identify, and punish.


If current system changes the way you suggested, I would strongly advise you lock that bin seriously. Not only on the cover but also attach the entire bin on chain in case someone else takes it. That way you won't have to pay for your neighboors' trash. Also buy a hidden camera operating on all hours if you can with a beeper to call you whenever the trash man should empty your safely locked bin!


In the UK it works just fine, and we have a much higher crime rate than Korea.

You mean each person has a wheelie bin? what is this idea exactly?


Yep. Each household has a big wheelie bin, and for the wheelie bin they pay the council a one off fee. The dustbinmen collect the rubbish once a week using special trucks that lift the wheelie bins, and empty them into the truck. You place the wheelie bin on the pavement the night before the wheelie men are due, and then bring it back into your garden after they have collected the rubbish. Makes sense to me.
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yangban



Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The Great Green Pacific Northwest

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2004 5:58 am    Post subject: MCDONALD'S TRASH Reply with quote

Regulation garbage bags - use them all the time without thinking about cost or why I have to buy them. I guess another question would be - who really takes the time to put the right garbage in the right receptacles at McDonald's?
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oneiros



Joined: 19 Aug 2003
Location: Villa Straylight

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2004 8:07 am    Post subject: Re: MCDONALD'S TRASH Reply with quote

yangban wrote:
Regulation garbage bags - use them all the time without thinking about cost or why I have to buy them. I guess another question would be - who really takes the time to put the right garbage in the right receptacles at McDonald's?


Me. I guess that's why I turned out to be Jean-Luc Picard on the "Who Are You" quiz from the other thread. I am incapable of not following the rules.
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panthermodern



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Taxronto

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2004 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel a user/pay system is better than taxes.

I love the user pay garbage bag system.
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panthermodern



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Taxronto

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2004 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is me talking totally crazy:

all containers for selling food (jars, bottles, whatever) should be standarized.

all food contianes should be made of glass (when possible).

all glass food containers would have a recycle cost/refund like glass pop and beer bottles.
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