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atwood
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 Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 12:37 am Post subject: |
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| liveinkorea316 wrote: |
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| hogwonguy1979 wrote: |
not sure about this but havent their labor costs gone down in the past few years because i dont think a majority of the stations are staffed as much as in past years, the station offices where you could buy tickets etc are all closed.
on the subject of senior citizens i say from age 65-70 say make the fare 500 won and then free over age 70, that will make up a bunch of the deficit |
Probably not. As many people have said, alot of those older people are simply going there because it is free. Making them pay will likely half their patronage or more.
The way to make the subway make a profit is to raise fares to 2,000 base fare up to 3,000 for the furthest routes.
Bus fares are cheaper but then again they are subsidised too. If the subway has to make a profit then buses would have to also to not distort things. Express inter-city buses run at a profit but inner city buses are run by local governments with fares at around 1,000 won in many places.
One way to enforce discipline into the Subway would be to privatise it. However there would need to be management and close oversight to see that public needs were still being met. |
Privatizing did not work out at all for the trains in England. |
They were not exactly privatised. They were management contracts. There is a difference. The operators had no influence on their ticket prices. |
The BRB was broken up and sold. It was privatised. There was some regulation of ticket prices but your statement is an exaggeration. Many fares are unregulated. |
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Savant
Joined: 25 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 12:50 am Post subject: |
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| Can we all agree that less old people starring angrily is a good thing. |
I agree. I had no idea they were riding for fun. This forum is an education sometimes. |
They also use the heated seats to keep warm in the winter. Lots of old people in a heated enclosed space? Not a good idea for escaping the cold/flu.
Give them their free subway passes but out with peak running time. |
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liveinkorea316
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 4:19 am Post subject: |
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| atwood wrote: |
| The BRB was broken up and sold. It was privatised. There was some regulation of ticket prices but your statement is an exaggeration. Many fares are unregulated. |
We are talking about a Subway/Metro network which is not the same as a National Rail network. There are fundamental differences between the markets for these two types of rail. Whereas rail networks in many countries are delining in use by commuters in favor of roads. Subways still have a valuable nieche in congested cities.
The British Metro is still in public hands and never fully went out of public hands apart from a brief foray into management contracts. |
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carleverson
Joined: 04 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 6:06 am Post subject: |
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As an avid bicyclist, I'd love to see the government promote the use of bikes for commuting to work by giving tax breaks to bike commuters...Also creating more bike lanes in parts of the city would be nice...
The current congestion of car/bus traffic on the roads and the ridiculous subway congestion is coming to a head. The government needs to look at alternatives. Promoting bike riding could be a part of the solution. |
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