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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever. Both will occur. Sorry that I have to spell everything out for you like a four year old requires Smile


You and everyone else know where I live and know where I run. I run shirtless and receive a lot of positive attention but like jealous middle school boys some have said "ooooh don't do that". What a bunch of candy asses.

Waiting....


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runthegauntlet



Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Location: the southlands.

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zackback wrote:
Whatever. Both will occur. Sorry that I have to spell everything out for you like a four year old requires Smile


So now you're just going to fall back on the prepubescent retort of 'whatever' to validate your increasingly asinine rhetoric.

I see what you did there.

Big thumbs up.
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big thumbs up your ass.
I have aready gave enough information about me and what I do.
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runthegauntlet



Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Location: the southlands.

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zackback wrote:
Big thumbs up your ass.
I have aready gave enough information about me and what I do.


Laughing

Fail constantly?
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhh the jealousy.
I'm in Andong- nothing else more needs to be said.
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runthegauntlet



Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Location: the southlands.

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zackback wrote:
Ahhh the jealousy.
I'm in Andong- nothing else more needs to be said.


Ah, mate, you seem a bit confused.

I was just curious about this speed you claim to have.

I'm as apathetic as can be regarding your clothing choices.
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McGenghis



Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Location: Gangneung

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You two are the twin avatars to whom those who wish to see a thread degenerate quicker than a railroad bum who has found soju pray to.

All hail. Endings sentences with prepositions is something I commit to.
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All because a guy sweats alot and wants to take off his shirt while running. Oh how awful.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was funny while it lasted.

As for the thread topic, by all emans run in Korea as there are tons of great spots to run, especially some amazing hill trails.

Korea also offers a lot of race options or running clubs for runners. Get out there and join up if you prefer to run with a group.

For more Busan-centric information as this where I ran for those 11 years I spent in Korea:

The beaches offer great places to run on the packed sand near the water or on the boardwalk.

The hills that surround Busan are teeming with great running hill trails.

You can also run along the river as there are running paths there.

Street running is tough because so many of the side streets are very narrow. The sidewalks are often brick and uneven and in my opinion will tax your knees and back. They are also crowded.

Busan offers great running weather most of the year, except for July and August where it gets to be like living inside a humidifier with the heat cranked up. As such, run after sun down or early in the morning if you can. Alternatively, run on the beach where you will get a sea breeze that can cool you off.
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Died By Bear



Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

McGenghis wrote:
I run quite a bit out by the sea. I have many beautiful courses to choose from. I can take a nice 6 Km nip through the rice paddies and into the local hills where I often see deer, or I can just head due east and reach the sea in about three minutes. I follow the bike path along route 7 and cross a few rivers then return home. On this run I am never more than 200 yards from the Drink.

If I go at dawn I watch the mackerel fishermen pulling in their nets. The smell of that massive heaving water is intoxicating. I run past a few gun turrets with their weapons trained on the horizon. I rarely cast a nervous eye out for North Koreans, but rarely is not never.

In the hills, I greet the hikers and try not to disturb the souls resting under the little mounds along the path.

Basically I have no idea how anyone could live in a city. I seriously start climbing the walls after about 48 hours in Seoul.

Edit: maybe I should create an anti-Cohiba Rule thread. Calling all country bumpkins...^^



Hey before this thread goes the way of the gun, just wanted to say how jealous and hating on you I am right now, lol

cheers you got it good man.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

McGenghis that is an anwesome running spot you have my friend!

Now I miss running near Haeundae beach in the early morning or in Deajondea for my longer weekend runs!

I do miss the hill trails I had adopted as running paths in Busan too. In fact, Busan is a big city but at the same time offers lots of smaller city advantages, namely lots of great places to run.

Keep on running!
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shifty



Joined: 21 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
Keep on running!


Yep, keep on running if you want to ruin your knees. Been there, done that!

Trust me, you're going to need those knees when older and the running memories have disappeared together with your cartilage.

Give it up while you still retain a sliver of cartilage and turn to low impact stuff.

Unless you're a triathlete, then it's kind of vindicated. I mean a triathlete is special, holy ground and all..
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shifty wrote:
PatrickGHBusan wrote:
Keep on running!


Yep, keep on running if you want to ruin your knees. Been there, done that!

Trust me, you're going to need those knees when older and the running memories have disappeared together with your cartilage.

Give it up while you still retain a sliver of cartilage and turn to low impact stuff.

Unless you're a triathlete, then it's kind of vindicated. I mean a triathlete is special, holy ground and all..


I am almost 40, been running since I was 12. My father and brothers too.

No knee problems to speak of.

Its all about knowing how to run, what to wear and how long and how often to run. Understanding what different surfaces do to you when you run on them is also key.

The exercises you do on top of running also dictate how your body fares with running. Do core muscles exercises to get a better running posture, cross train...

I get annual check ups with a sports doctor and all systems are green.

I do know some runners who have knee, back and neck problems however. Sorry to hear you seem to have had knee problems however.
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shifty



Joined: 21 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
cross train...


I take that to mean cycling; is there anything else that effectively counters running stresses?

Quote:
I get annual check ups with a sports doctor and all systems are green.


A sports doctor can do a lot. But the knee surely remains out of bounds to anyone who can't 'see inside'. Before my op the doc warned that he could not a priori say until the op itself how radical the clean-up would be. In the event the entire cartilage was ripped out. Suffice to say my other knee is staying virgin.

Quote:
Sorry to hear you seem to have had knee problems however.


Thanks. The op knee is fine now even though it's theoretically bone against bone. Actually, I did continue running, albeit at much reduced distances, but now have wisely cured myself of the habit. In any case, running is part of the seventies running boom. Nowadays enlightened folks don't run and it's not cool anymore either.

Though I can understand why expats in K still do, since it's so time efficient, amongst other things..
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually running is huge right now in Canada where I live. It has undergone a renaissance with better training methods and equipment. In fact, I cannot recall seeing so many running specialty stores around. In the US Runner magazine has had 4 banner years in row in terms of subscribers.

Gone are the days of the lone runner with the no pain no gain attitude.

These days runners cross train (cycle, swim, weights for core muscles), stretch more, run on better shoes and understand running better.

Heck a fair portion of my kindle is packed with running books that contain advice, training methods and injury prevention methods.

Seriously, I have not had one serious injury due to running in my life. I did get sore a few times but in the past 5-6 years running has evolved eons from where it was.

What can counter running stress?

Exercises that strenghten support muscles that balance out running like swimming, cycling, weights for targetted muscle groups.

What can lessen the risk of knee damage and even eliminate it?

Pacing, rest days between runs, knowing how to train gradually, other exercises as named above, proper shoes, proper running surfaces.

A typical program will require rest days, you follow that AND listen to your body and you can avoid problems.

The same is true of run pace and distance, you need to find what works for you, not what someone else tells you is good for you as a runner.

Some people will still get knee, neck or back problems from running but then again you can get injured from doing many sports or doing a repetitive physical movement at your work.

Personally I look for programs that fit my needs. I also do not run the same way I did when I was a teen or in my 20s. You adapt to your body and run accordingly.

Now, I have settled on a 4 run a week pace, doing roughly 7-9K per run. That keeps me in shape. When racing comes up, I kick into training mode to prepare my body for the run (marathon for example).

On top of the running, on non-running days I cross train: swimming twice a week plus weighs for core muscles (especially abs are and opposed muscles (those muscles that need to compensate for the other muscles that develop due to running)).

I also keep tabs on shoe usage and change shoes when needed.

I choose running friendly surfaces when ever I can: gravel, trails, dirt, and if nothing else is available pavement. No concrete sidewalks for me thanks

I also understand what pace and distance does to my body. I read on on the cycles of development for your body as you run and how you need to be mindful of how cardio, muscle and joints get stronger at much different paces. For example cardio can take 2-3 weeks to improve or cycle to the next level, muscles typically take 1-3 months while tendons, bones and joints take 3-6 months. So if you rev up too fast, your cardio will be great but you may suffer muscle injury in the process and expose your joints, tendons and muscles to usaged and damage (ex: knees).

Another simple rule: if it hurts consistently in one area, STOP TRAINING until it heals.
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