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[coffeeman]

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[KimchiExplosion]

So. Many. Hipsters.

[wishfullthinkng]

[West Coast Tatterdemalion]

And how much did the meat industry pay you to rip on me? LOL. You need to evolve. That is what happens when you escape a primitivistic mindset. So, by your logic, because people ate meat for centuries and centuries and yet more centuries, then it is perfectly acceptable to keep doing something because it has been done for such a long period. Kind of like how Korea says that dog meat is their "culture" or Japan saying that killing whales is part of their culture. Bull. That's not culture. It is criminal, deviant behavior. These analogies are correct. Just because something has been done for a long time doesn't mean that it is right or has to be continued. Eating meat is not necessary these days because of all the vegetarian/vegan options available. Hunting is absolutely not necessary and should be condemned. In my opinion, anyone that kills an animal should be vaporized. Animals are innocent and only kill for survival. Humans know what they are doing and kill for enjoyment and to inflict the maximum amount of pain on something that they feel less than equal to themselves.

So, I will say to you...time to evolve. Time to educate yourself on the nature of the universe. Think outside your Big Mac or Whopper or whatever flesh you consume. Think of the consequences of your actions.

And your fantasy of the world coming to an end, well, if it happens I doubt that any of us are going to survive. Food won't exist in that scenario. And I would bet that even if there were scarce amounts of food that I could outlast you. Easily. That's because you would suffer withdrawals and die of shock from not having your daily amount of fatty flesh.

Evolve.

[myenglishisno]

Just to go off argument for a bit:

My reason for being a vegetarian is rather simple and I doubt many people would be able to disagree with my principles.

- Animals, especially the more complex ones (pigs, cows and so forth) have the capacity for pain. Killing them involves causing them pain.

- When eating animals, there is no guarantee that the animal was treated humanely. There is no guarantee that the animal didn't suffer.

- Hunting for sustenance isn't my problem. Factory farms are (see #1 and #2). The only circumstance I'd eat an animal is if I killed it myself. Otherwise, I think it is wrong to eat animals unless you can guarantee beyond the shadow of a doubt that the animal was raised and killed humanely.

- This is the weakest point but it does hold weight: meat production is bad for the environment. A decrease in meat production would not only lead to a decrease in environmental contamination but it would also free up land that could be used for growing vegetables. Since more vegetables can be grown on less land, far more people could eat for far less.

So yes, I think that so long as people acknowledge this, I'd be happy. Even if they still ate meat. I don't ram this down people's throats or even bring it out unless they pry but this is the skinny of what I believe. I don't want/expect to convert everybody, I just want people to think about wha they eat.

If someone is aware of all this and persists in eating meat, proudly, thinking that they're some kind of superior species that is by his/her own virtue "allowed" to consume all other species at his/her whim... then they're a bad person, plain and simple.

Being a vegetarian is a good way to filter the good people from that bad Don't mean to sound preachy. Facts are facts.

[soupsandwich]

I'm inspired to head to Chili's and order a Mushroom/Swiss burger...cooked MW.............................thanks guys!






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[Menino80]

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[NSMatt]

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[Menino80]

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[itistime]

"- This is the weakest point but it does hold weight: meat production is bad for the environment. A decrease in meat production would not only lead to a decrease in environmental contamination but it would also free up land that could be used for growing vegetables. Since more vegetables can be grown on less land, far more people could eat for far less. "


I think that this is actually the strongest point. Don't take into account just the area of land that can be freed up for veg production. Think of the vital areas that are CLEARED for animal production. The rain forests are this planets natural air conditioners. One reason temperatures are rising.
What about all the fossil fuels required to overwork the planet and areas you speak of?

The landscapes are being depleted of productive soils.
Water, a resource that is being wasted like no other is becoming less available for millions of people everyday. How many gallons of water do you think are required for one cow compared to 10,000 acres of arable and sustainable food commodities? You'd be shocked.

What percentage of soy do those crazy vegetarians consume after rainforests have been cleared and replanted? An extraordinarily miniscule amount compared to the amount fed to cattle and mixed into your McDs burgers and other food products. Try less than 10%
Yeah. They feed your beef this stuff. Not terrible, but cows really haven't eaten much soy until the past few decades. Is this shlte ridiculous or what?

So, I think it is the strongest point.
But, people should do what they want to do. Unfortunately, most people don't think.

[wishfullthinkng]