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Stout
Joined: 28 May 2011
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| Like I said, come up and live in Seoul for a while, see the reality, and then comment. Otherwise you really are just a bumpkin who over-romanticizes things. But if being an ignorant bumpkin who entertainment magnates love to string along (along with the new weeaboo geek crowd) suits you, go ahead and knock yourself out. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:54 am Post subject: |
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| Stout wrote: |
| Like I said, come up and live in Seoul for a while, see the reality, and then comment. Otherwise you really are just a bumpkin who over-romanticizes things. But if being an ignorant bumpkin who entertainment magnates love to string along (along with the new weeaboo geek crowd) suits you, go ahead and knock yourself out. |
For someone who hates KPop you sure seem to have a lot of insight into it. I mean if I couldn't stand the stuff I would just listen to something else and not give a hoot about what goes on with it. But it seems like you've devoted serious time and research to this.
As for being exploited and people raking money of people chasing dreams, all I have to say is it sounds sorta like us and our college Dee-grees. I mean, we could have all that knowledge and interaction by going to the library and joining civic groups and hobby groups. But then again we wanted to get paid. Some of us took out some debt to chase that dream. Most, if not all of us threw buckets of money at the textbook factories. That's life.
Yeah, some kids spend time playing sports instead of preparing for the job market because they see a Gatorade commercial. That doesn't stop me from popping a brew every now and then watching a game.
I mean last thing I want to hear when I listen to a tune or watch a game is for someone to lecture me on how awful I am and how high and mighty they are.
Frankly, thinking you are a better person than someone based on what music you listen to is sheer idiocy. I mean who thinks like that?
Also, just because someone listens to KPop doesn't mean they obsessively follow it or that's all they listen to.
Yes, the industry has some sleaze to it. We get it. Every field has its dirt. I mean, as an NET, I am not about to start lecturing people on doing what it takes to get a decent paycheck.
Also I find it funny when NETs get all high and mighty about music towards Koreans considering the bulk of recent music is created or based/ripped off of the culture and traditions of the descendants of American slavery. |
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Tundra_Creature
Joined: 11 Jun 2009
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:24 am Post subject: |
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| That American dude who was in a wildly successful group (2pm) jumped ship at the height of the group's fame and went back to the states- Gee, I wonder why? Wasn't he 'living his dream'? |
Actually he was pressured to quit because of some of the comments he made.
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Jay park actually came back to Korea, but as a solo artist. He just came out with a new album in April. I don't blame him, really. I can't imagine having to start all over back in the States and then probably not even getting a real shot at the entertainment industry there.
The industry can certainly be a dirty business what with the plastic surgery and the crazy long hours. I'm surprised not more of them end up like those Disney Kids (Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan, etc). That being said, a lot of them also probably enjoy their work very much and probably wouldn't get the chance otherwise to do it.
And yeah, the songs are hella catchy. |
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Stout
Joined: 28 May 2011
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Tundra_Creature wrote: |
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| That American dude who was in a wildly successful group (2pm) jumped ship at the height of the group's fame and went back to the states- Gee, I wonder why? Wasn't he 'living his dream'? |
Actually he was pressured to quit because of some of the comments he made.
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Jay park actually came back to Korea, but as a solo artist. He just came out with a new album in April. I don't blame him, really. I can't imagine having to start all over back in the States and then probably not even getting a real shot at the entertainment industry there.
The industry can certainly be a dirty business what with the plastic surgery and the crazy long hours. I'm surprised not more of them end up like those Disney Kids (Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan, etc). That being said, a lot of them also probably enjoy their work very much and probably wouldn't get the chance otherwise to do it.
And yeah, the songs are hella catchy. |
They do turn out like that, but you only hear about it when they hang themselves. After their spot in the sun (if they get there), they are hung out to dry.
Diamonds are also quite fetching, and purchasing them can also reproduce misery. Big boss man rolls in the dollars, workers get a few scraps, and the consumer is the one who feeds the machine.
But oh well, so long as you can tap your toes, who gives a hay.
http://www.mb.com.ph/node/284272/korean-
http://www.celebvids.co.uk/tag/k-pop/
http://www.hellokpop.com/2011/05/27/singer-and-former-sg-wannabe-member-chae-dong-ha-commits-suicide/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13760064 |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
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Also I find it funny when NETs get all high and mighty about music towards Koreans considering the bulk of recent music is created or based/ripped off of the culture and traditions of the descendants of American slavery. |
Most NET's aren't American. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Stout wrote: |
| Tundra_Creature wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
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| That American dude who was in a wildly successful group (2pm) jumped ship at the height of the group's fame and went back to the states- Gee, I wonder why? Wasn't he 'living his dream'? |
Actually he was pressured to quit because of some of the comments he made.
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Jay park actually came back to Korea, but as a solo artist. He just came out with a new album in April. I don't blame him, really. I can't imagine having to start all over back in the States and then probably not even getting a real shot at the entertainment industry there.
The industry can certainly be a dirty business what with the plastic surgery and the crazy long hours. I'm surprised not more of them end up like those Disney Kids (Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan, etc). That being said, a lot of them also probably enjoy their work very much and probably wouldn't get the chance otherwise to do it.
And yeah, the songs are hella catchy. |
They do turn out like that, but you only hear about it when they hang themselves. After their spot in the sun (if they get there), they are hung out to dry.
Diamonds are also quite fetching, and purchasing them can also reproduce misery. Big boss man rolls in the dollars, workers get a few scraps, and the consumer is the one who feeds the machine.
But oh well, so long as you can tap your toes, who gives a hay.
http://www.mb.com.ph/node/284272/korean-
http://www.celebvids.co.uk/tag/k-pop/
http://www.hellokpop.com/2011/05/27/singer-and-former-sg-wannabe-member-chae-dong-ha-commits-suicide/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13760064 |
So you're saying KPop is bad because some of its members have met an untimely demise.
Could you please inform me of a genre of music free of such unfortunate ends for its stars?
I mean, suicide and depression pretty much seems to come with the territory of being a performer/artist. Something to do with the psychology behind it.
Thank goodness I can listen to Janis Joplin, Hank Williams, Jimi Hendrix, Nirvana, Easy-E, and Tupac and not have to worry about my stars meeting an unfortunate end or having anything go wrong in their music industry.
Yeah, not every person who wants to be a star is going to make it. Some succeed, some fail. Along the way it costs money. Some people understand the risks associated with dropping out of school and trying to make it big.
Great reward requires great risk.
So please Stout, clue us in on how to pursue and succeed at your life dream. You are living it, right? |
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Tundra_Creature
Joined: 11 Jun 2009
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:21 am Post subject: |
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They do turn out like that, but you only hear about it when they hang themselves. After their spot in the sun (if they get there), they are hung out to dry.
Diamonds are also quite fetching, and purchasing them can also reproduce misery. Big boss man rolls in the dollars, workers get a few scraps, and the consumer is the one who feeds the machine.
But oh well, so long as you can tap your toes, who gives a hay.
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Boss making more money than the workers? Sounds like my job, minus the fame and glamor and parties with hot men on party boats. 
Nah, but in all seriousness, I find it hard to get myself worked up over the music industry as compared to other issues, especially considering the amount of suicides, drug abuse, etc that happens in both the mainstream and independent sectors.
Considering I choose to support both sectors by listening to music from both (and buying from both), I don't feel too guilty about my choices. This is just me, but I find it very hard to get worked up over the music industry since it's not my 'passion'. I'd rather go and get worked up and upset about something else instead.
Sorry Dude (Dudette)? |
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Italy37612
Joined: 25 Jan 2010
Location: Somewhere
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:44 am Post subject: |
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| If you don't like it there is always 102.7 for your listening pleasure. |
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Stout
Joined: 28 May 2011
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