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Ramen
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the rise in crime rate for sure.  |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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There have been countless news reports about gambling addicts who lose all their money at the tables in the Kangwon Land casino. The prevalence of gambling addiction in Korea was 6.1 percent last year, much higher than in New Zealand (1.4 percent), Germany (1.2 percent) and the U.S. state of Arizona (1 percent).
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/06/24/2011062401080.html |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Koreadays wrote: |
| once casinos allow Koreans here there will be a lot of BROKE familes. |
Too late. It's already happened with Gangwonland.
I was there the first weekend it opened (I lived nearby) and saw grown men crying in the streets. Newspapers even wrote up that taxi drivers were selling their taxis to pay off their debts, stranding them in town, unable to get home.
And that was only the first weekend. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| Koreadays wrote: |
| once casinos allow Koreans here there will be a lot of BROKE familes. |
Too late. It's already happened with Gangwonland.
I was there the first weekend it opened (I lived nearby) and saw grown men crying in the streets. Newspapers even wrote up that taxi drivers were selling their taxis to pay off their debts, stranding them in town, unable to get home.
And that was only the first weekend. |
This thread has taught me never to hit that casino, and I thought the casinos in Atlantic City were full of horror stories. |
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djz
Joined: 17 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:47 am Post subject: |
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the posts in this thread are hilarious. yea obviously people can blow all their money degening at a casino but there are plenty of way they can lose it as well. i know a very good winning poker player who went bankrupt from the stock market.
there are ads on TV here for credit cards with 50% interest. that is super sick.
| Poker wrote: |
| If people want to gamble, they should learn how to play poker. Playing poker is different to the other games in the casino. It's against other humans, not against the house where the odds are stacked against you. Play poker against people worse than you, it's really easy to identify the fish after a couple of rounds. It is actually that simple to always leave the casino with winnings. |
ok this is absurd. the percentage of losing poker players is something like 90%.
the cost of just sitting at a 1/2 poker table is ~$20 an hour due to rake (rake here is really high to sit may be more). so just to breakeven you need to be making $20/hr before rake. that takes like 200$ off the table every hour. let's say there are two good regulars at the table and 3 fish and 4 OK players. the 2 winning players make like $20-30/hr (post rake) each fish lose $30-40/hr. that leaves the 4 OK players fighting for the $10-20 that the fish donate...so unless you're someone who crushes you can really only expect to make like $4-5/hr in the long run. |
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Ruby Thursday
Joined: 29 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| As others here have mentioned, hit up the Casino in Gangwon-do (High 1) and you'll get a clear picture as to why Koreans aren't allowed to gamble. It's something straight out of Dante's inferno. Mass hordes of adjossis playing 20 slots a pop, complete and utter disorganization, yelling, fighting, drunken debauchery....it's a real eye opener. I've been to Casinos all over the world but NOTHING comes remotely close to that craziness. |
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djz
Joined: 17 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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eh just sounds like the casino in gangwondo is too far/poorly managed/too small. it's in a pretty remote location so the people who make the trek have to be pretty degenerate.
fwiw i have no interest in going to it.
i think it's pretty racist to believe that koreans SHOULDN'T be allowed to gamble or that they're somehow more prone to gambling addiction than other ethnic groups. guessing that no one posting that viewpoint has been to a pachinko parlor in japan. or seen the louis theroux documentary on vegas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x4rn8zq4s0 |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 6:43 am Post subject: |
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| djz wrote: |
| i think it's pretty racist to believe that koreans SHOULDN'T be allowed to gamble or that they're somehow more prone to gambling addiction than other ethnic groups. |
So the Korean government is racist against their own people for believing this? |
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cert43
Joined: 17 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:46 am Post subject: |
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| This is just ALL so absurb |
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djz
Joined: 17 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| djz wrote: |
| i think it's pretty racist to believe that koreans SHOULDN'T be allowed to gamble or that they're somehow more prone to gambling addiction than other ethnic groups. |
So the Korean government is racist against their own people for believing this? |
yea it is. or maybe they're just racist against foreigners (this means they discriminate regarding their own people as well btw).
uhhh this is pretty tangential but you can read work by BR Meyers who is the leading western scholar on korea (professor here, wrote an amazing book on north korea called 'the cleanest race'). basically one of his main ideas as that koreans see themselves as a child race that need protection from their government/leader from various dangerous outside vices/the foreign world.
paternalist/maternalistic methods of government are extremely common here and i think that's the main reason that koreans are banned from casinos/foreign imports were banned for so long. oh and i'm pretty sure that pornography is illegal here. |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: kOREA
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:20 am Post subject: |
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| Asians and gambling are a bad mix. Period. Political correctness be damned |
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Ruby Thursday
Joined: 29 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:37 am Post subject: |
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| minos wrote: |
| Asians and gambling are a bad mix. Period. Political correctness be damned |
Damn straight. It's like saying "Heeey! It's racist to say Native Aboriginals are susceptible to alcoholism. I have an uncle...."
The casino back in my home country is jammed with 90% Asians at any given time of day. Sure, you could look at the handful of old white guys sitting at the slots wearing diapers, but the raw data belies any and all PCness. |
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seoulsucker
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Koreans are to casinos as Japanese are to external military. They know their own proclivities well enough to call the shots on these issues.
Gangwonland Casino was a real eye-opener for me. 4-500 people lined up outside of the main room 3 hours before they opened up. Chaos at the tables, totally impossible to get a seat, etc.
The saddest thing I saw was a lady at a table answer her husband's call and say, "Sorry honey I'm driving...I'll call you back."  |
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nukeday
Joined: 13 May 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| This thread makes me want to go to Gangwonland! Sounds like a hoot! |
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Ruby Thursday
Joined: 29 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:15 am Post subject: |
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| nukeday wrote: |
| This thread makes me want to go to Gangwonland! Sounds like a hoot! |
And I guess you think E-Mart on a Saturday afternoon is neat-o too, huh? |
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