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[Gorf]

Hey Zack, maybe you can just do what Korean farmers do and import a wife-slave from one of those countries, that seems to fall in line with your preferences in a partner.

[liveinkorea316]

In my very limited experience amongst Korean women. Many tend to waste their 20's avoiding committment or anything resembling it at all costs.

Of course not all, but a far number. The ones who don't avoid finding a relationship partner usually find one, no matter how attractive or wealthy they are...but many women who are both educated, attractive and intelligent do not want to even broach the subject until their late twenties at least. Oh of course they are not all virgins in their 20's and they have a number of "boyfriends" but these are low level of committment relationships and broken easily and often picked back up again. People often remain friends afterwards.

There is often friction at my uni between male students in their late 20's and females in their early 20's. The males have done military service so are 3 years older at least. Perfect you might think age-wise in a confucian society but very often all the girls want is some time killing and the guy is almost inevitably dumped when she moves town, gets bored....she never invests much at all in the relationship. There are bigger fish to fry - career, study, playing with friends, shopping....plus she knows she can get fixed up with a warm body+wallet when she reaches 30 so why throw away her 20's?

I suspect the high class women in Seoul who see themselves as unable to find a partner kept themselves emotionally off limits for their 20's then found that their excessive focus on their career, shopping and girlfriends and money means they really don't know what they need a man for anyway except that everyone else now has one and god forbid even kids so she has to get those two.

If she had put a quarter as much effort into actually finding a mate over the last 12 years as she has into other areas of her life she would not be in this mess.

So yes, it is her fault.

[rainism]

seems to me that most of these Korean females are very smart ladies indeed.

and for them the early thirties aren't comparable to early thirties for most of their Western, (particularly Anglo Saxon) counterparts who are well on their way to heiferdom if not already there, with some already carrying some serious road miles on their faces.

most such Korean females easily look 5-7 years younger. Best thing is at that age they begin to lose some of their earlier stupidity and infantilism, although this "golden age" for them is way too short, as they shortly thereafter launch into full adjummadom.

the funniest thing I read was the part where these women realize that they really don't need these men for anything after all.

true!

it's merely the societal pressure to BE married and to HAVE kids.
However, this pressure is waning, or else they're resisting it much more than one would believe, given the ongoing very high numbers of single women in Seoul and the very very low birthrate in Korea.

(though obviously monetary/economic factors, as well as the subject of this thread also come into play)

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[rainism]

well, I do believe that upbringing either produces this in women or they partially feel it themselves, the sense that they can never fully "fulfill" their womahhood until they become a mother.

It's stronger in some cultures than others, but it supercedes all cultures.
(Latin women are a good e.g. I know a guy who married one with the agreement they wouldn't have children. He had one from a previous marriage and didn't want any more. I told him she'd pressure him to change his mind and indeed that's precisely what happened. Ultimately this led to the breakup of the marriage and she married someone else and yes, now has children. She was in her 30's = another clear danger singnal)

women get this way in their 30's because their biological clocks are ticking. Men aren't as invested in fatherhood and they don't really have to worry about their biological clocks.

so in my mind it's really about having kids in the minds of the K women.
Husbands are merely needed as sperm donors . something to show off (hence the requirements) and then accoutrements, best well earning ones, so they can be best put to use in their "Korean husband/father" role which is that of worker ant.

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[liveinkorea316]

A couple nurses I know told me that for that salary they are put through hell for the first 5 or so years. They have random shifts which change every couple days and are on their feet for 12 hours.

A nurse I know personally is perpetually tired and hates her job. Even though her salary is good and she is working at a prestigous hospital in Seoul.

My nurses classes at uni are invariably my most intelligent classes however. So nurses are smart.

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