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Why can't Koreans understand Western ages?
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atwood



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:
atwood wrote:
BTW, they tried to introduce daylight savings time in Korea, but the experiment failed because too many people just couldn't figure it out.

False, and good thing they don't, half the world doesn't and DST's usefulness is questionable. If they wanted too, it would be best to coordinate with Japan and China, and those two countries have tried and also didn't see the need for DST.

Why would a Korean co-worker lie to me about this? How long have you lived in Korea and how do you know it's false? The attempt was made about 15 years ago.

Question DST all you like, I think it's great. Each to his own.
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cwflaneur



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The simplest solution is: just don't use Korean age. When I'm in Korea or China, I give the same age that I would say anywhere else. If that causes them to think I'm a little younger than I am, who cares?

Occasionally they ask if I'm using the Korean system, and when I say no, they then try to work out my age Korean-style, and then announce it to me. I just shrug.
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

atwood wrote:
jvalmer wrote:
atwood wrote:
BTW, they tried to introduce daylight savings time in Korea, but the experiment failed because too many people just couldn't figure it out.

False, and good thing they don't, half the world doesn't and DST's usefulness is questionable. If they wanted too, it would be best to coordinate with Japan and China, and those two countries have tried and also didn't see the need for DST.

Why would a Korean co-worker lie to me about this? How long have you lived in Korea and how do you know it's false? The attempt was made about 15 years ago.

Question DST all you like, I think it's great. Each to his own.

Not questioning they tried it, but it's completely false it failed because too many people couldn't figure it out. Japan experimented (or forced) with it too and also decided to abandon it. Are you saying too many people in Japan couldn't figure it out too?
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

atwood wrote:
jvalmer wrote:
atwood wrote:
BTW, they tried to introduce daylight savings time in Korea, but the experiment failed because too many people just couldn't figure it out.

False, and good thing they don't, half the world doesn't and DST's usefulness is questionable. If they wanted too, it would be best to coordinate with Japan and China, and those two countries have tried and also didn't see the need for DST.

Why would a Korean co-worker lie to me about this? How long have you lived in Korea and how do you know it's false? The attempt was made about 15 years ago.

Question DST all you like, I think it's great. Each to his own.


Actually it was 23 years ago. And it wasn't a failed attempt, it was a successful implimentation for a specific event. The reason they did it was for the '88 Olympics. They adjusted to DST in '87 to rehearse, work out any kinks. Again in '88 for the event and then went back to not using it.

I imagine there were a variety of reasons for not continuing it. I doubt inability to adapt was high on the list.
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thegadfly wrote:
isisaredead wrote:
T-J wrote:
AtmaWeapon wrote:
I've been here a year and I still don't fully understand how it works. When you are born you are 9 months old and then everyone turns a year older on LNY, which is a different date every year? Jesus that is confusing. Are there any other countries in the world that have age systems like this?


Yea, as other posters have stated it's not counting from conception.

But here is another one for you to blow your mind. Koreans are pregnant for 10 months, not nine.



It's really the same 40 week gestation. 40 weeks divided by 4 gives you 10 months each with 28 days. It's a lunar calendar thing.


such purity of genetics and blood requires an extra long gestation.

/me vomits


Naw...Koreans are just better at getting the numbers right:

"In humans, birth normally occurs at a gestational age of about 40 weeks, though a normal range is from 39 to 42 weeks."

40 weeks = 10 months....


How many weeks in a year?

What's the monthly average?

Sorry, but 40 weeks do not equal 10 months, just like 48 weeks does not equal 12 months.
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T-J



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
thegadfly wrote:
isisaredead wrote:
T-J wrote:
AtmaWeapon wrote:
I've been here a year and I still don't fully understand how it works. When you are born you are 9 months old and then everyone turns a year older on LNY, which is a different date every year? Jesus that is confusing. Are there any other countries in the world that have age systems like this?


Yea, as other posters have stated it's not counting from conception.

But here is another one for you to blow your mind. Koreans are pregnant for 10 months, not nine.



It's really the same 40 week gestation. 40 weeks divided by 4 gives you 10 months each with 28 days. It's a lunar calendar thing.


such purity of genetics and blood requires an extra long gestation.

/me vomits


Naw...Koreans are just better at getting the numbers right:

"In humans, birth normally occurs at a gestational age of about 40 weeks, though a normal range is from 39 to 42 weeks."

40 weeks = 10 months....


How many weeks in a year?

What's the monthly average?

Sorry, but 40 weeks do not equal 10 months, just like 48 weeks does not equal 12 months.


Changed the color in my original post for those that couldn't / didn't see the explanation.

Hope that makes it clearer.....
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, wasn't directed at you. Your post got caught up in the bundle.

Was directed towards the fly (I read your colored text)
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T-J



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:

How many weeks in a year?


52 weeks in a year.

Captain Corea wrote:

What's the monthly average?


28 days in a month, every month.

Captain Corea wrote:

Sorry, but 40 weeks do not equal 10 months, just like 48 weeks does not equal 12 months.


Yes, 40 weeks does equal 10 months, just like 52 weeks equals 13 months, or one year.

What part don't you get?
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-J wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:

How many weeks in a year?


52 weeks in a year.

Captain Corea wrote:

What's the monthly average?


28 days in a month, every month.

Captain Corea wrote:

Sorry, but 40 weeks do not equal 10 months, just like 48 weeks does not equal 12 months.


Yes, 40 weeks does equal 10 months, just like 52 weeks equals 13 months, or one year.

What part don't you get?


1. Correct
2. Incorrect
3. Incorrect. 40 weeks does not equal 10 months. And how do you figure 13 months equals one year?

Perhaps I'm missing the mockery in your post? ... or were you talking about the lunar calendar?
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T-J



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


You have an interesting way of using correct and incorrect.

Let's try this, 1+1=10. Correct or incorrect?

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tatertot



Joined: 21 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-J wrote:

You have an interesting way of using correct and incorrect.

Let's try this, 1+1=10. Correct or incorrect?


T-J, you trollin' the Cap'n hard.

Presumably, you are using binary arithmetic to equate 1+1 and 10. Rather than just keep messing with him, you should specify that you are likewise using the lunar calendar and defining months to be equal to 4 weeks or 28 days.

Or you could just keep trolling him. However, I should let you know that you aren't coming off as a real "winner" in this thread (at least to me).

edit: I see that Captain Corea did realize you were using the lunar calendar. My post can be ignored (except for the part about you coming off as a bit of a troll).
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T-J



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


If he realizes that I've referred to the lunar calendar and continues to insist that it is wrong, then who is trolling whom?
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps you missed it, but I wasn't replying to you. I was replying to the gadfly (and even posted as such). I saw your post about the lunar calendar on page one, and even added a point to it.

Since then, I've been replying to the gadfly in reference to how the human gestation period. He quoted a source on pregnancy terms and it was that quote I've been replying to.

But if you want to continue to be an azz about this, by all means, continue. But in case you missed it, here's my post...

Captain Corea wrote:
Sorry, wasn't directed at you. Your post got caught up in the bundle.

Was directed towards the fly (I read your colored text)
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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-J wrote:
atwood wrote:
jvalmer wrote:
atwood wrote:
BTW, they tried to introduce daylight savings time in Korea, but the experiment failed because too many people just couldn't figure it out.

False, and good thing they don't, half the world doesn't and DST's usefulness is questionable. If they wanted too, it would be best to coordinate with Japan and China, and those two countries have tried and also didn't see the need for DST.

Why would a Korean co-worker lie to me about this? How long have you lived in Korea and how do you know it's false? The attempt was made about 15 years ago.

Question DST all you like, I think it's great. Each to his own.


Actually it was 23 years ago. And it wasn't a failed attempt, it was a successful implimentation for a specific event. The reason they did it was for the '88 Olympics. They adjusted to DST in '87 to rehearse, work out any kinks. Again in '88 for the event and then went back to not using it.

I imagine there were a variety of reasons for not continuing it. I doubt inability to adapt was high on the list.

In other words, you don't know and "inability to adapt" could be exactly why the chose to discontinue using it.
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T-J



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

atwood wrote:
T-J wrote:
atwood wrote:
jvalmer wrote:
atwood wrote:
BTW, they tried to introduce daylight savings time in Korea, but the experiment failed because too many people just couldn't figure it out.

False, and good thing they don't, half the world doesn't and DST's usefulness is questionable. If they wanted too, it would be best to coordinate with Japan and China, and those two countries have tried and also didn't see the need for DST.

Why would a Korean co-worker lie to me about this? How long have you lived in Korea and how do you know it's false? The attempt was made about 15 years ago.

Question DST all you like, I think it's great. Each to his own.


Actually it was 23 years ago. And it wasn't a failed attempt, it was a successful implimentation for a specific event. The reason they did it was for the '88 Olympics. They adjusted to DST in '87 to rehearse, work out any kinks. Again in '88 for the event and then went back to not using it.

I imagine there were a variety of reasons for not continuing it. I doubt inability to adapt was high on the list.

In other words, you don't know and "inability to adapt" could be exactly why the chose to discontinue using it.


I tell you what, since this is a learning experience for you and you have thus far learned when Korea used DST, let's continue the experience.

Why don't you find out who the president was from '81~'88 and then ask yourself if the ability of the people at the time was a major consideration in implementing any policies during that time.

I'll wait.
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