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figshdg
Joined: 01 May 2012
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| luckylady wrote: |
| something to be aware of is how risky it is to eat cheese in a country such as Korea where one is unsure of the cheese's source. both making and handling cheese requires care and precise methods; all cheeses are extremely susceptible to contamination, if not handled appropriately. |
You could say the same about buying cheese in any country. I would say, for what it's worth, that some of the best cheese I've had in Korea was Korean made. There are a few select producers that make great cheese and yoghurts here, but they are ludicrously pricey. |
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luckylady
Joined: 30 Jan 2012
Location: u.s. of occupied territories
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| luckylady wrote: |
| something to be aware of is how risky it is to eat cheese in a country such as Korea where one is unsure of the cheese's source. both making and handling cheese requires care and precise methods; all cheeses are extremely susceptible to contamination, if not handled appropriately. |
You could say the same about buying cheese in any country. I would say, for what it's worth, that some of the best cheese I've had in Korea was Korean made. There are a few select producers that make great cheese and yoghurts here, but they are ludicrously pricey. |
no, you wouldn't say that about any country - just those who have a limited history of a dairy industry. Korea is not alone in this, but there are many countries whose dairy industries are strong and vibrant with a rich history of many traditional cheeses and other products.
further, to say some of the best cheese you've ever had was Korean-made, well, then you either (1) have no taste for cheese or (2) haven't eaten much in the way of a variety of cheeses.
might want to broaden your palate a bit. |
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Chalmers
Joined: 20 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Sounds better than the previous incarnation of the place! |
No kidding- it was a dive with Russian ladies sitting at the front table. But that didn't stop food bloggers from wildly recommending the place!  |
So the fact that there were some Russian ladies there should be a reason why food bloggers should not like the place? |
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figshdg
Joined: 01 May 2012
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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no, you wouldn't say that about any country - just those who have a limited history of a dairy industry. Korea is not alone in this, but there are many countries whose dairy industries are strong and vibrant with a rich history of many traditional cheeses and other products.
further, to say some of the best cheese you've ever had was Korean-made, well, then you either (1) have no taste for cheese or (2) haven't eaten much in the way of a variety of cheeses.
might want to broaden your palate a bit. |
Uh, a cursory search on Google would show that ill health because of poor handling/management of the cheese making process does occur in countries that are more used to the cheese making process. Admittedly, not to the same level as other countries.
Are you a native English speaker? Try reading what I wrote one more time. I said some of the best cheese I've had in Korea was Korean made. I did not say that some of the best cheese I've ever had was Korean made. I did enjoy the little palate rant. There's something wonderfully ironic about an American (the country most associated with plastic cheese) ranting about cheese quality. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| figshdg wrote: |
| luckylady wrote: |
| something to be aware of is how risky it is to eat cheese in a country such as Korea where one is unsure of the cheese's source. both making and handling cheese requires care and precise methods; all cheeses are extremely susceptible to contamination, if not handled appropriately. |
You could say the same about buying cheese in any country. I would say, for what it's worth, that some of the best cheese I've had in Korea was Korean made. There are a few select producers that make great cheese and yoghurts here, but they are ludicrously pricey. |
no, you wouldn't say that about any country - just those who have a limited history of a dairy industry. Korea is not alone in this, but there are many countries whose dairy industries are strong and vibrant with a rich history of many traditional cheeses and other products.
further, to say some of the best cheese you've ever had was Korean-made, well, then you either (1) have no taste for cheese or (2) haven't eaten much in the way of a variety of cheeses.
might want to broaden your palate a bit. |
One of my best friends here makes his own cheese, and he's Korean. It's quality stuff and properly stinky. He makes blue, brie, and an awesome hybrid of the two. He also makes fresh mozzarella and feta. We've made some amazing pizzas.
Of course, I miss Murray's Cheese Shop, but his cheese is definitely the best cheese I've had in Korea, with the exception of the stuff we bring over in our luggage. |
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luckylady
Joined: 30 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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| There's something wonderfully ironic about an American (the country most associated with plastic cheese) ranting about cheese quality. |
not nearly as ironic as someone - anyone - who believes they can find quality cheese in S. Korea, imported or not.
further, America is not associated with plastic cheese - in fact - our dairies have set standards around the world - why do you think students come to our universities? that includes the agricultural ones as well, not just the Ivy ones |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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| There's no reason why someone couldn't make decent cheese wherever they wanted as long as they had the recipe and the equipment. It's not like the secret of alchemy or something is it? I'm sure somewhere in a Western country there's a white guy whose hobby is making kimchi for some strange reason, though Koreans would probably say it wasn't as good as the real stuff. I remember in Italy they used to go on about pizza mozzarella only being genuine if it came from buffalos living in a certain area etc..etc... But I certainly couldn't taste the difference between the best stuff and cheaper types. Maybe experts could. |
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figshdg
Joined: 01 May 2012
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| luckylady wrote: |
| figshdg wrote: |
| There's something wonderfully ironic about an American (the country most associated with plastic cheese) ranting about cheese quality. |
not nearly as ironic as someone - anyone - who believes they can find quality cheese in S. Korea, imported or not.
further, America is not associated with plastic cheese - in fact - our dairies have set standards around the world - why do you think students come to our universities? that includes the agricultural ones as well, not just the Ivy ones |
Have you tried every cheese in the country? No? Thought not.
You're talking about America not being associated with plastic cheese in a thread on a sandwich that uses plastic cheese. Hmm.
No one is talking about universities, but something tells me that you're not a graduate of the hallowed halls of one of the better universities in the US. |
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chellovek
Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:28 am Post subject: |
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| figshdg wrote: |
| There's something wonderfully ironic about an American (the country most associated with plastic cheese) ranting about cheese quality. |
not nearly as ironic as someone - anyone - who believes they can find quality cheese in S. Korea, imported or not.
further, America is not associated with plastic cheese - in fact - our dairies have set standards around the world - why do you think students come to our universities? that includes the agricultural ones as well, not just the Ivy ones |
Just for a bit of 'lol'--- that plastic cheese is known as "American Cheese". Agriculture isn't the same as dairy, dairy is an aspect of agriculture though. Just because folk want to study at US agricultural colleges doesn't mean they want to learn how to make Kraft Slices. Unless they're Korean, maybe *chortle*
I suppose you could mention that famed "Wisconsin Cheddar" further up the thread, since Cheddar is a famous place in South-West England, Wisconsin, USA.
Also, what are these famous American cheeses then? |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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It's not famous, but there are some amazing cheeses to be found in the states. Still, yeah, my non-Americans usually have a laugh when any cheese from America is mentioned. We brought them back some nice ones (as well as English ones) from our last trip, and they were pleasantly surprised, but quality cheeses certainly aren't the norm in the average supermarket. Even I'll own up to that. I had to go to the Union Square Farmer's Market to get the best stuff. Of course, there's always the imported stuff at the higher-end shops, but I wanted to prove that good domestic stuff could be had. It's more of a niche market, though, but growing.
Did you know that the original name for American cheese was almost embalmed cheese? Those lovely folks in PR decided that it may put people off. |
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Mr. Kalgukshi
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