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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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This reminds me of an argument I had with one of my room mates.
He claimed the sun rose in the West and set in the East. He was so adamant in his argument that he got angry. Nothing I said would convince him that he was wrong. I wish I had recorded that conversation. |
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sadguy
Joined: 13 Feb 2011
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| Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:04 am Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
This reminds me of an argument I had with one of my room mates.
He claimed the sun rose in the West and set in the East. He was so adamant in his argument that he got angry. Nothing I said would convince him that he was wrong. I wish I had recorded that conversation. |
was this argument before the internet? |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:16 am Post subject: |
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| sadguy wrote: |
| pkang0202 wrote: |
This reminds me of an argument I had with one of my room mates.
He claimed the sun rose in the West and set in the East. He was so adamant in his argument that he got angry. Nothing I said would convince him that he was wrong. I wish I had recorded that conversation. |
was this argument before the internet? |
After the internet. Which made the argument all the more sad. |
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vDroop
Joined: 25 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:32 am Post subject: |
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| Joe Boxer wrote: |
Well, it was pretty easy. Just got of the light blue train at Sadang, followed the signs to the end of the platform, to the green line train. Waiting in line now to get on. No turnstile.
I'm heading toward Jamsil. Was the OP heading the other way? Because the transfer area for the green train toward Hongdae is a different location. |
Yeah I think this is causing the confusion for the OP. I guess it's one of those transfers where you have to know which direction you are headed early on because they split and you go down different halls. |
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh
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| Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:39 am Post subject: |
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I hate all the stations. All those turnstiles just get in my way. hard to jump when you are drunk or carrying stuff.
Seriously though, Guro to Yongsan sucks. If you want to transfer between a rapid train and a regular train you have to change platforms. Such a pain in the butt. I try and change at noryangjin myself as they have the shortest stairs. Fastwst transfer ive found. |
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radcon
Joined: 23 May 2011
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| Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:48 am Post subject: |
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| seoulsucker wrote: |
| YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG. |
That's what she said. |
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toonchoon
Joined: 06 Feb 2009
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:29 am Post subject: |
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| Kennyftw wrote: |
| lmao total OP FAIL. lol OP you don't have to pay for transfers. |
just by the OP's initial message, we can see that he's not a standout citizen. now we know he's also an idiot. |
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Chet Wautlands
Joined: 11 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:46 am Post subject: |
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I feel your pain, OP.
I hate how there's no direct bus from Seoul to Busan. You have to take a bus to Gwangju and then transfer. So annoying! |
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hapkido1996
Joined: 05 Jul 2011
Location: Anyang, Gyeong-gi
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| Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:31 am Post subject: |
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| Koreadays wrote: |
| the OP is trolling....... |
^ This. With a username like that, what's the chances that s/he has any Korean friends at all? OP sounds like a hater trying to spread hate. Pitiful. Go home, if you can't handle it out here in the real world. |
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hapkido1996
Joined: 05 Jul 2011
Location: Anyang, Gyeong-gi
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| Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:40 am Post subject: |
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| How was my post in any way hateful? |
Can you explain how/why your username isn't derogatory/demeaning to Koreans in general?
Also, your OP seems to suggest more that you haven't bothered to learn basic Korean. Thousands of people use that transfer every day, yet you in particular haven't figured it out yet. Do you expect Korea to conform to your convenience? I've transferred at 사당 many times and I only had difficulty the first one or two times, pretty much like any other busy station. Have you bothered to condescend to learn basic 한글?
If you haven't, you have nobody to blame but yourself. Would you go to Italy, expecting everthing to be explained in English? If so, why? Forgive me if I've lumped you together with the masses of other expats who are too freaking lazy to learn basic Korean, but that's what it's looking like so far from your OP. 사당역 is a busy place. That doesn't mean that it's up to Korea to change it just to make it easier for you.
The Koreans I know recognize that it's a very crowded place, but they figure it out and get on with life without throwing a tantrum about it. My Korean girlfriend occasionally makes a wrong turn, so what? Same shit happens in Rome, New York, London, etc, etc, on a daily basis. No reason to deride the whole system because of an occasional inconvenience to foreigners who don't bother to learn the national language. Figure it out, learn how to get along and adapt without bitching and whining at every inconvenience.
Put forth a modicum of effort. You'd have to do the same back home or in any other country's subway systems. Put it in perspective and mature a little, rather than bitching and whining because you're mildly inconvenienced. Jeesh. |
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myenglishisno
Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon
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| Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| hapkido1996 wrote: |
| Also, your OP seems to suggest more that you haven't bothered to learn basic Korean. Thousands of people use that transfer every day, yet you in particular haven't figured it out yet. Do you expect Korea to conform to your convenience? I've transferred at 사당 many times and I only had difficulty the first one or two times, pretty much like any other busy station. Have you bothered to condescend to learn basic 한글? |
My Korean is at a intermediate level in reading and writing and at a comfortable (albeit lower) level in speaking, which isn't my strong suit. I've studied Korean formally and as self-study. I've lived here on and off since 2007. You sound like a condescending douche who judges people.
I get that you've been here for a long time and maybe being condescending towards those you perceive as loser freeloaders is one of the coping mechanisms you've contrived to make it more livable here for such a well-established expat. That being said, you're going to have to dig into more than just one thread to come to that conclusion about me and you haven't done that. You're judging me based on nothing (and in turn, I'm judging you).
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| If you haven't, you have nobody to blame but yourself. Would you go to Italy, expecting everthing to be explained in English? If so, why? Forgive me if I've lumped you together with the masses of other expats who are too freaking lazy to learn basic Korean, but that's what it's looking like so far from your OP. 사당역 is a busy place. That doesn't mean that it's up to Korea to change it just to make it easier for you. |
Again, my Korean is fine. I will not forgive you for lumping and where I get off the train, as far as I can tell, there is no indication anywhere of where to go to get to the place I'm trying to go to. Even the adjosshi that work there weren't able to help me out. I'm sure most of the people on the train know how to do it, truth be told I don't stop at that station very often.
Oh and when did I write this post? I wrote it on my smartphone while on the train and posted it fewer than three stops after I had departed Sadang. It wasn't exactly after hours of calm reflection. It was rather spontaneous.
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| The Koreans I know recognize that it's a very crowded place, but they figure it out and get on with life without throwing a tantrum about it. My Korean girlfriend occasionally makes a wrong turn, so what? Same shit happens in Rome, New York, London, etc, etc, on a daily basis. No reason to deride the whole system because of an occasional inconvenience to foreigners who don't bother to learn the national language. Figure it out, learn how to get along and adapt without bitching and whining at every inconvenience. |
When did I throw a tantrum? I was venting on the internet. That's what 80% of this forum is. My "venting" is pretty pragmatic and a bit silly compared to all the sweeping generalizations and finger pointing about much more serious things regarding "the Korean experience." I half meant this post to be silly and it was a half-troll.
You seem more torn up about it than I was in the original post.
The sad thing is, if I called Koreans a bunch of money-grubbing backstabbers (I'm not) I bet I wouldn't even get half the amount of negative attention as I'm getting right now over my little, spontaneous rant about an everyday occurrence. I almost made a joke in the OP about it being a "firstworldproblem" and in retrospect, I wish that I did. It would've kept people like you at bay, that's for sure.
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| Put forth a modicum of effort. You'd have to do the same back home or in any other country's subway systems. Put it in perspective and mature a little, rather than bitching and whining because you're mildly inconvenienced. Jeesh. |
Says the ape who thinks they know everything about me based on a few ineffectual paragraphs of text regarding a mild, pedestrian annoyance.
There are much bigger fish to fry on this forums than me. Get a life. You're probably very fat and have no friends (two can play at this game!) |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:47 am Post subject: |
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| OP: It's not exactly a leap to determine jumping the turnstiles (an illegal act) isn't the smartest choice available to a commuter. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:49 am Post subject: |
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myenglishisno...that station is pretty straightforward as far as transfers go. I used it this past december while visiting friends there and the transfer costs nothing and the signs for the line transfers are painfully obvious with neat little arrows that tell you what stairs to use and what way to go.
Sounds like you could not bother reading these things and decided to hop the turnstiles as a shortcut.
A quick online search for this station turns up this:
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Tips
For those transfering from line two to line four, the second or third car from the back will give a direct route to the stairs leading down and enable one to beat the crowd.
When coming in to Sadang Station from line 4 in the south, the car in the very back will be the closest to the stairs leading up to the transfer platform to line 2. If coming in from Sanbon, Ansan etc. be sure to move to the very back. |
So take it like an adult here: you acted stupidly and got confused in an otherwise easy transfer station. Man up, admit you made a mistake and move on...seriously. |
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soulofseoul
Joined: 23 Mar 2010
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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OP: if your Korean is that good they why didnt you ask a Korean at Sadang station for directions????? Makes sense
And and 6 year old can follow the colorful signs
Why would you have to pay twice at this transfer point and nowhere else in Seoul??? Youre SO wrong coz I live nearby and use Sadang daily |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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| The signs are very obvious. Maybe make a trip back with your long weekend and take a look around. |
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