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young_clinton
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| jamesd wrote: |
| Let this be a warning to those that like to drink to get drunk. Your liver doesn't let your body know that that you're over working it until you've hit the point of no return. So drink moderately to enjoy, but not to get drunk and wasted. |
If you're drinking you need to eat food along with the alcohol. Also don't drink alcohol and milk together. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Colorado wrote: |
| I just spoke with my wife, who was with Mick's wife today at the hospital. They will test Mick's brother in the morning to see if his liver is compatable. |
I don't understand this part.Is the brother going to give his own life to offer his brother his liver? |
They take out one of the donor's liver lobes, since the liver contains different pieces. |
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Colorado
Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Public School with too much time on my hands.
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nero
Joined: 11 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| drydell wrote: |
terrible situation... hope your friend will come out of this all right..
seems especially unfair as he quit drinking for 6 months prior... (i saw a documentary where a previous heavy drinker was in an identical situation 10 years later after going alcohol-free)
Was he a long-term heavy drinker?.. how much, and for how long did he drink?...(i'm not passing judgement- he should be helped in whatever way possible)
I personally rarely binge drink socially but I do drink wine frequently at home and I'm becoming more wary of possible long-term health consequences... |
Yes, without trying to hijack the thread, I am interested in how this happened. I was a heavy drinker for 15 years and I actually recently went and had some scans done of my organs to see what damge I possibly caused.
I really feel for this guy, I know some people back home that were once a week drinkers who had problems after only a few years. Auto immune disorders can have a huge effect on your liver as well.
In any case, the fact is a guy is in hospital, a guy with a family in NZ and here and I truly hope he comes through this. If possible, let him know there are people thinking of him. |
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The Floating World
Joined: 01 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Wouldn't it be cheaper to fly him to NZ where he can get it on the NHS? |
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Colorado
Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Public School with too much time on my hands.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm pretty sure his doctors have considered that option. He is in an Intensive Care Unit. |
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Colorado wrote: |
If we know that someone in trouble needs our help to survive and we have the means to help them, are we under any obligation, as human beings, to do so? Perhaps not. And what about that little girl run over in China, shouldn�t she accept some responsibility for her fate.. I�m sure her mother warned her not to play in the street. It�s like natural selection, isn�t it? I�m sure none of us ever played in the street.
If you are reading these posts, you are aware of what�s going on. And you have the means to help. Are you going to walk on by? |
Don't try to compare a child (and a toddler at that) with a presumably mentally capable 40 something man. It makes you look very unsympathetic. |
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koreatimes
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| young_clinton wrote: |
| jamesd wrote: |
| Let this be a warning to those that like to drink to get drunk. Your liver doesn't let your body know that that you're over working it until you've hit the point of no return. So drink moderately to enjoy, but not to get drunk and wasted. |
If you're drinking you need to eat food along with the alcohol. Also don't drink alcohol and milk together. |
I challenge this notion (eating, I don't know about milk, the idea is disgusting and maybe it has to do with the alcohol in your stomach and acid from the milk to create fireworks). If you need the food to absorb the alcohol, then your body isn't feeling the effects of the alcohol. I have drunk where I still had beers left and it didn't seem to make the experience any more enjoyable. So, in this case I would simply drink less and not eat. To me, drinking less is better than eating more for the sake of others seeing you drink more. If your doing it by yourself, then it's doubly stupid.
If you are eating so that your liver can regenerate whatever is needed, then I would think the amount of food/nutrients to be consumed wouldn't have to be that much. Eat something small, but don't eat "along" with drinking. Stop drinking and stop eating.
Please correct or clarify if I am wrong. I can't find any scientific information to backup my claims. Too many people are saying the extremes, either stop cold turkey or eat while you drink like it's a marathon. I can't espouse to either. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:14 am Post subject: |
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I believe that there is scientific evidence that drinking milk and alcohol within the same time period is harmful. There was a biochemistry professor (chairman of the medical school biochemistry department) that responded to an editorial letter at my university stating that drinking alcohol and milk together was harmful.
As far as drinking alcohol (stressful for the liver and body) to the point where it replaces what you eat (needed nutrients for the liver), I feel that its common sense it might be harmful. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| If I was in Korea and my liver was compatible, I would give him part of my liver. Fortunately for me I am a serious coffee addict and a junk food junkie not a heavy drinker. 'Let he who is without sin throw the first stone'............remember that one? |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| young_clinton wrote: |
| I believe that there is scientific evidence that drinking milk and alcohol within the same time period is harmful. There was a biochemistry professor (chairman of the medical school biochemistry department) that responded to an editorial letter at my university stating that drinking alcohol and milk together was harmful. |
BS my friend. Milk is mostly protein, so the bad thing is that it will slow down the absorption of alcohol because it will coat your stomach for a while, which means you might drink more. Also it may mean your body won't utilize the nutrition in milk since alcohol will prevent the breakdown and absorption of nutrients. Nothing really harmful, just means more of it will come out your rear. Alcohol is still the main culprit, milk is just an innocent observer to damaging your liver. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:13 am Post subject: |
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| I did a Google Scholar search and didn't come up with anything. |
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Colorado
Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Public School with too much time on my hands.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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As of Saturday, we've raised more than 6 million won in contributions. We're still trying to get a paypal account set up, hopefully this week. It seems that his brother may be a close enough match to be a donor. but no date has been set for the surgery.
https://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/events/202032269874081/
If you are sending funds from within Korea:
Nonghyup Bank (National Agricultural Cooperative Federation)
Name: 마이클 (Michael Milne)
Account - 811057 52 067773
... ... If you are sending funds from another country to Mick's Korean account:
Bank name: National Agricultural Cooperative Federation
Name: Michael Milne
Account number: 811057 52 067773
Swift Code - NACFKRSEXXX
Address: 75, Chungjeongro 1 Ga
Jung-Gu, Seoul, Korea
Phone: 82-10-7552-1964 |
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Colorado
Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Public School with too much time on my hands.
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Colorado
Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Public School with too much time on my hands.
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WE NEED BLOOD!
Males with O- blood: We need you to get to any blood donation centre to donate. Please specify that it is for Michael Milne who is at Pusan National University Hospital. He has 20 litres now, but needs 40 litres before surgery on Wednesday. Thank you! |
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