|
Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
|
 Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:49 am Post subject: |
 |
|
| warmachinenkorea wrote: |
| Mix1 wrote: |
| warmachinenkorea wrote: |
| [People can and do have the right to believe as they choose. And you have the right to speak as you choose. |
Exactly. That was my point. People have the right to respond however they want. I'm glad we agree on that now.
Now how about you stop telling others to "leave people alone" when you don't know the context of the situation? Actually the context was hypothetical anyway; where someone was telling another that they saw magic garden gnomes, which is essentially asserting a version of reality, which is supposed to be based on facts.
If someone doesn't agree with those facts, they have every right to challenge them if they want to and obviously they are fine with the "repercussions".
If you want to help defend someone's garden gnome experience against a challenge that's very kind of you, but I don't know why you'd do it. You'd probably laugh if you heard it, just as much as I might.
Saying "leave people alone" is just trying to dictate how others should respond and shut down discussion. The statement didn't upset me at all, but let's try to be clear about the intent behind it.
Also you paint the issue as atheists trying to push their beliefs on others, when actually its almost always the other way around.
(Ex: massive organisations using their tax exemption and funding to send missionaries around the world to convert people to their belief system. How about THEY leave people alone?)
And if you read more closely, you'll see that the statement "when athiests get tax exemption" was used as a hypothetical to illustrate a point and does NOT actually advocate for tax exemption. |
So it's ok for you to respond to a person that believes in something you find odd, but it's not ok for me to respond how I want?
And if these things are hypothetical then you need to state that.
| Quote: |
| Now how about you stop telling others to "leave people alone" when you don't know the context of the situation? |
This is ironic since you want me to stop telling other what to do. |
Yes, that's right. Steep in the irony then.
You jumped in with "leave people alone" as if you knew the context but you didn't. I responded in kind. Obviously anyone can respond however they want, although in your own words there could be "repercussions" In this case I did not like your tone and wanted to clarify the context.
And no, I don't specifically need to state if something is a hypothetical, most could derive the right meaning from the sentence. You came to the wrong conclusion about the meaning and I just clarified it for you. I'd rather not debate semantics but if you want to harp on it more go ahead. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
|
| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:02 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Kuros wrote: |
| His musings on the war on terror irresponsible. |
Just curious...how so? (To echo the cosmic hum) I'm also divided on most of his musings, but I thought he was at least against torture. If you are referring to the Iraq War, he also really made it hard to choose a side sometimes.
As for his narcissism, he kind of made it work to his benefit in a slightly charming way. It certainly helped him in debates. He blurred the lines between confidence, arrogance, and narcissism that's for sure. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
