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fermentation
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
Do you actually have a link for this statistic of "most" or are you just making it up? |
Option 2 Myth...because its far more spectacular to spout off with qualifiers than admit you have no clue what you are talking about!  [/quote]
Don't have stats but there was a doc on this issue on SBS a couple months ago. A lot of the dogs were former pets. Of course it could be biased and it probably didn't know every dog farm in Korea but it was enough for me to not eat dog anymore until the animals are treated more humanely. SBS gave me more evidence than any of you ever did.
While we're at the subject I would love to see some evidence that these dogs are bred and raised for food. Because I actually like dog meat.
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| I don't understand how eating dog doesn't serve a purpose. It's just food. |
It's more about how they're treated before being slaughtered. |
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TheUrbanMyth
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| Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| fermentation wrote: |
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While we're at the subject I would love to see some evidence that these dogs are bred and raised for food. Because I actually like dog meat.
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Here you go
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nureongi
Yes it's a Wiki link but it's backed up with studies and newspaper links...see the references at the bottom.
http://koreajoongangdaily.joinsmsn.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=2888535
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| The Moran Market in Seongnam, Gyeonggi is another place well known for selling dog meat and dogs for consumption. Industry experts say that up to 25 percent of Korea�s dog meat is sold here while the rest comes from individual farms in the countryside that breed dogs exclusively for consumption. |
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pkang0202
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| Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Would a Dachshund taste good made into a hotdog? |
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Died By Bear
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Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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| Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
| Would a Dachshund taste good made into a hotdog? |
Of course, those ears provide a lot of flavor during the cooking process. |
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Savant
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| Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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I'm asked about South Korea when I go home and for the most part it is still an unknown quantity to a lot of Brits.
Two questions are always asked:
1) Is South Korea the good or bad country?
2) Do they still eat dog there?
The Korea, that Korea wants to sell itself as an "Economic and Technological Powerhouse" gets whittled down to "that dog eating country". It doesn't really do wonders for its image in other countries of the world that is not China, Thailand etc. |
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pkang0202
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| Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Savant wrote: |
I'm asked about South Korea when I go home and for the most part it is still an unknown quantity to a lot of Brits.
Two questions are always asked:
1) Is South Korea the good or bad country?
2) Do they still eat dog there?
The Korea, that Korea wants to sell itself as an "Economic and Technological Powerhouse" gets whittled down to "that dog eating country". It doesn't really do wonders for its image in other countries of the world that is not China, Thailand etc. |
you get the same response from americans too. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| fermentation wrote: |
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While we're at the subject I would love to see some evidence that these dogs are bred and raised for food. Because I actually like dog meat.
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Here you go
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nureongi
Yes it's a Wiki link but it's backed up with studies and newspaper links...see the references at the bottom.
http://koreajoongangdaily.joinsmsn.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=2888535
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| The Moran Market in Seongnam, Gyeonggi is another place well known for selling dog meat and dogs for consumption. Industry experts say that up to 25 percent of Korea�s dog meat is sold here while the rest comes from individual farms in the countryside that breed dogs exclusively for consumption. |
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Actually, the notion that dog meat comes from yellow dogs only is a myth nowadays. When I go out hiking I come across many dog farms. The dogs I've seen are of a largish breed, some kind of mastiff, maybe Great Danes. I would guess that's because they grow fast and yield more meat.
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Savant wrote: |
I'm asked about South Korea when I go home and for the most part it is still an unknown quantity to a lot of Brits.
Two questions are always asked:
1) Is South Korea the good or bad country?
2) Do they still eat dog there?
The Korea, that Korea wants to sell itself as an "Economic and Technological Powerhouse" gets whittled down to "that dog eating country". It doesn't really do wonders for its image in other countries of the world that is not China, Thailand etc. |
Well, asking about dog meat doesn't mean one cares one way or another and those who form an opinion based on the eating habits of a minority of Koreans are rather ignorant and intolerant.
PS. Are they still cannibals in Britain?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1389142/British-royalty-dined-human-flesh-dont-worry-300-years-ago.html
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northway
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| Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:33 am Post subject: |
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Two things:
1) If discarded pets are ending up in dog soup, that's rather messed up.
2) I don't really see why anyone gets on Korea about eating dog, considering how many countries in the West eat horse. The same arguments for intelligence and closeness to humans apply to both animals, yet no one is attacking France for their horse consumption. Koreans really shouldn't be embarrassed about the mere fact that they eat dogs, though they should be a bit more discerning about where the dogs come from. |
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coralreefer_1
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| Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:19 am Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
Two things:
1) If discarded pets are ending up in dog soup, that's rather messed up.
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It is, but I think its only messed up because someone threw their dog out into the street. However in my own messed up way of thinking, I would rather an abandoned dog be made into soup that will feed someone for a day, rather than being run over by a car, scrounging around for food while avoiding rocks from the neighborhood kids, breeding more pups that will suffer the same miserable life of a street dog...etc. |
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Troglodyte
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northway
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| Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
Two things:
1) If discarded pets are ending up in dog soup, that's rather messed up.
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It is, but I think its only messed up because someone threw their dog out into the street. However in my own messed up way of thinking, I would rather an abandoned dog be made into soup that will feed someone for a day, rather than being run over by a car, scrounging around for food while avoiding rocks from the neighborhood kids, breeding more pups that will suffer the same miserable life of a street dog...etc. |
On a fundamental level I agree, but the lack of disclosure as to the fact that you might be eating a pet is a bit of an issue. |
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warmachinenkorea
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:09 am Post subject: |
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Come to KAPS http://koreananimals.or.kr/english/ here in Daegu and then go to the markets. The same dogs that are in our shelter could have easily ended up in a cage in the market. The dog meat guys will pick up a stray dog and throw it in the back of their truck with no problem.
Here is a good example of a dog meat farm, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jQRCubyDVU
We've seen everything from Shih tzus, Yorkies, English Bulldogs to their National treasure the Jindo.
I live outside of Daegu and teach in a very rural area. My schools have on average 60 students. I see dog trucks during the spring and summer almost everyday of the week. They are full with different types of dogs.
I'm not putting the blame on Korea here. Animal cruelty happens all over the world. But don't think for a second that a particular dog breed solely for meat and no other dogs are eaten.
It's about money and any dog can be sold, killed, used as food or some medicine for money. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:10 am Post subject: |
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In all the times I've eaten dog, I can't remember being ever concerned about the breed of the dog.
munch, munch. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:03 am Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| coralreefer_1 wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
Two things:
1) If discarded pets are ending up in dog soup, that's rather messed up.
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It is, but I think its only messed up because someone threw their dog out into the street. However in my own messed up way of thinking, I would rather an abandoned dog be made into soup that will feed someone for a day, rather than being run over by a car, scrounging around for food while avoiding rocks from the neighborhood kids, breeding more pups that will suffer the same miserable life of a street dog...etc. |
On a fundamental level I agree, but the lack of disclosure as to the fact that you might be eating a pet is a bit of an issue. |
That's why I won't eat dog meat. There's no telling what you're eating.
Case in point:
In the late 90's, two guys were arrested for selling thousands upon thousands of carcasses that they had been contracted to dispose of by medical laboratories to dog meat restaurants. |
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