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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| duke of new york wrote: |
| Yaya wrote: |
| No_hite_pls wrote: |
| duke of new york wrote: |
| EarlGray wrote: |
It depends on where you're located, but things are getting better overall. Some of is still just the hangover. I heard people complain about a terrible economy, but they all had jobs that paid fairly well.
In the deep South, it's still quite bad. But I think some of that has to do with a region of the country that's always been fearful of too much education that wasn't "Bible learnin'" and they somehow expect to be middle managers by the time they turn 30 with just their GED.
All, and I mean all, of my friends from university are working. Many of my high school friends that decided against getting a degree are on unemployment. Funny though, my friends that dropped out of high school at 16 are working, be it at menial back labor jobs fixing cars and mowing lawns. |
It's funny you should mention the South. I'm from Arkansas, and the effects of the recession have been miniscule there, even when it first hit. Northwest Arkansas is actually experiencing major growth, some of the most significant in the nation. All in all, it's not bad at all where I come from, and it never really was. If you are willing to work and realistic about the kind of job your experience and education can get, there are lots of jobs out there.
Also, I take a little offense to your comment about the whole region being "fearful of too much education that wasn't 'Bible learnin.'" There is some excellent higher education in the South. In fact, like I said, the South is doing pretty well, other than Atlanta and New Orleans. The major areas suffering from the recession are concentrated in California and northern states like New York and Pennsylvania. The big cities are the ones with the problems, and most of the South is not urban. |
Arkansas is the third poorest state in the Union. They were consistently from 2004-2011.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income |
Arkansas and Mississippi are considered the two worst states to live in the U.S. |
Considered by whom? You? Have you ever been to Arkansas? As a native Arkansan, I can tell you firsthand that it is a great place to live. You will find people who have actually lived in Arkansas do not find it so distasteful; that is just hearsay from the types of people who think the South is some kind of third world country compared to the rest of the US. It may be one of the poorest states, but it is one of the poorest states in the richest country in the world. It's not exactly a cesspool of poverty or anything. And regardless of its financial position over the years, it has not been nearly as affected by the economic downturn as most of the country. You do know that Wal-Mart, Tyson and JB Hunt, as well as some other significant companies, are all headquartered in NW Arkansas, the area I am talking about? Some Walton descendant even just financed a major new world-class art museum in the area. It is, as I said, one of the most thriving areas in all the US. Every year it makes some list of top 10 cities in the US or something. It even made some travel magazine's list a few months ago of the top 30 travel destinations in the world.
If you don't want to live in Arkansas, I don't really care. To each his own. But I would appreciate it if you didn't make unfounded generalizations about the intelligence and quality of life of people in my state, which I strongly suspect you have never been to and know little about. |
Yep, NW Arkansas is pretty scenic and not that bad. Fayetteville is a nice college town and as you said, there are a few big companies in the area. I would certainly choose Arkansas over a number of other states.
Mississippi on the other hand... At least it's close to New orleans? And has a coast line? |
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radcon
Joined: 23 May 2011
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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| lithium wrote: |
| EarlGray wrote: |
It depends on where you're located, but things are getting better overall. Some of is still just the hangover. I heard people complain about a terrible economy, but they all had jobs that paid fairly well.
In the deep South, it's still quite bad. But I think some of that has to do with a region of the country that's always been fearful of too much education that wasn't "Bible learnin'" and they somehow expect to be middle managers by the time they turn 30 with just their GED.
All, and I mean all, of my friends from university are working. Many of my high school friends that decided against getting a degree are on unemployment. Funny though, my friends that dropped out of high school at 16 are working, be it at menial back labor jobs fixing cars and mowing lawns. |
Doesn't your 3rd paragraph contradict your 2nd smart guy? |
Maybe his friends don't live in the Deep South? |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| duke of new york wrote: |
| Yaya wrote: |
| No_hite_pls wrote: |
| duke of new york wrote: |
| EarlGray wrote: |
It depends on where you're located, but things are getting better overall. Some of is still just the hangover. I heard people complain about a terrible economy, but they all had jobs that paid fairly well.
In the deep South, it's still quite bad. But I think some of that has to do with a region of the country that's always been fearful of too much education that wasn't "Bible learnin'" and they somehow expect to be middle managers by the time they turn 30 with just their GED.
All, and I mean all, of my friends from university are working. Many of my high school friends that decided against getting a degree are on unemployment. Funny though, my friends that dropped out of high school at 16 are working, be it at menial back labor jobs fixing cars and mowing lawns. |
It's funny you should mention the South. I'm from Arkansas, and the effects of the recession have been miniscule there, even when it first hit. Northwest Arkansas is actually experiencing major growth, some of the most significant in the nation. All in all, it's not bad at all where I come from, and it never really was. If you are willing to work and realistic about the kind of job your experience and education can get, there are lots of jobs out there.
Also, I take a little offense to your comment about the whole region being "fearful of too much education that wasn't 'Bible learnin.'" There is some excellent higher education in the South. In fact, like I said, the South is doing pretty well, other than Atlanta and New Orleans. The major areas suffering from the recession are concentrated in California and northern states like New York and Pennsylvania. The big cities are the ones with the problems, and most of the South is not urban. |
Arkansas is the third poorest state in the Union. They were consistently from 2004-2011.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income |
Arkansas and Mississippi are considered the two worst states to live in the U.S. |
Considered by whom? You? Have you ever been to Arkansas? As a native Arkansan, I can tell you firsthand that it is a great place to live. You will find people who have actually lived in Arkansas do not find it so distasteful; that is just hearsay from the types of people who think the South is some kind of third world country compared to the rest of the US. It may be one of the poorest states, but it is one of the poorest states in the richest country in the world. It's not exactly a cesspool of poverty or anything. And regardless of its financial position over the years, it has not been nearly as affected by the economic downturn as most of the country. You do know that Wal-Mart, Tyson and JB Hunt, as well as some other significant companies, are all headquartered in NW Arkansas, the area I am talking about? Some Walton descendant even just financed a major new world-class art museum in the area. It is, as I said, one of the most thriving areas in all the US. Every year it makes some list of top 10 cities in the US or something. It even made some travel magazine's list a few months ago of the top 30 travel destinations in the world.
If you don't want to live in Arkansas, I don't really care. To each his own. But I would appreciate it if you didn't make unfounded generalizations about the intelligence and quality of life of people in my state, which I strongly suspect you have never been to and know little about. |
I don't need to visit Uganda to know that I wouldn't want to live there. And of course, isn't there a song about Arkansas saying only Mississippi is worse?
http://www.city-data.com/forum/arkansas/541357-new-evidence-arkansas-not-worst-state.html
http://www.thenewsherald.com/articles/2012/01/29/news/doc4f25b23185867147918314.txt?viewmode=fullstory |
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motiontodismiss
Joined: 18 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Actually the place to go for jobs right now is Texas and North Dakota. They need warm bodies for the natural gas stuff. Now if Obama comes to his senses, realizes that natural gas creates jobs, which bring in tax revenues and $$$ from exporting it-all money that he can use to pump into green energy-maybe, just maybe the US can recover faster. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:06 am Post subject: |
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| Actually the place to go for jobs right now is Texas and North Dakota. They need warm bodies for the natural gas stuff. Now if Obama comes to his senses, realizes that natural gas creates jobs, which bring in tax revenues and $$$ from exporting it-all money that he can use to pump into green energy-maybe, just maybe the US can recover faster. |
Let's not sacrifice safety and the environment for jobs.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-08-18/gas-fracking-poses-serious-environmental-risks-u-s-panel-finds.html |
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Konglishman
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing
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| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Yaya wrote: |
| duke of new york wrote: |
| Yaya wrote: |
| No_hite_pls wrote: |
| duke of new york wrote: |
| EarlGray wrote: |
It depends on where you're located, but things are getting better overall. Some of is still just the hangover. I heard people complain about a terrible economy, but they all had jobs that paid fairly well.
In the deep South, it's still quite bad. But I think some of that has to do with a region of the country that's always been fearful of too much education that wasn't "Bible learnin'" and they somehow expect to be middle managers by the time they turn 30 with just their GED.
All, and I mean all, of my friends from university are working. Many of my high school friends that decided against getting a degree are on unemployment. Funny though, my friends that dropped out of high school at 16 are working, be it at menial back labor jobs fixing cars and mowing lawns. |
It's funny you should mention the South. I'm from Arkansas, and the effects of the recession have been miniscule there, even when it first hit. Northwest Arkansas is actually experiencing major growth, some of the most significant in the nation. All in all, it's not bad at all where I come from, and it never really was. If you are willing to work and realistic about the kind of job your experience and education can get, there are lots of jobs out there.
Also, I take a little offense to your comment about the whole region being "fearful of too much education that wasn't 'Bible learnin.'" There is some excellent higher education in the South. In fact, like I said, the South is doing pretty well, other than Atlanta and New Orleans. The major areas suffering from the recession are concentrated in California and northern states like New York and Pennsylvania. The big cities are the ones with the problems, and most of the South is not urban. |
Arkansas is the third poorest state in the Union. They were consistently from 2004-2011.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income |
Arkansas and Mississippi are considered the two worst states to live in the U.S. |
Considered by whom? You? Have you ever been to Arkansas? As a native Arkansan, I can tell you firsthand that it is a great place to live. You will find people who have actually lived in Arkansas do not find it so distasteful; that is just hearsay from the types of people who think the South is some kind of
third world country compared to the rest of the US. It may be one of the
poorest states, but it is one of the poorest states in the richest country in the world. It's not exactly a cesspool of poverty or anything. And regardless of its financial position over the years, it has not been nearly as affected by the
economic downturn as most of the country. You do know that Wal-Mart,
Tyson and JB Hunt, as well as some other significant companies, are all
headquartered in NW Arkansas, the area I am talking about? Some Walton
descendant even just financed a major new world-class art museum in the
area. It is, as I said, one of the most thriving areas in all the US. Every year it makes some list of top 10 cities in the US or something. It even made
some travel magazine's list a few months ago of the top 30 travel
destinations in the world.
If you don't want to live in Arkansas, I don't really care. To each his own. But I would appreciate it if you didn't make unfounded generalizations about the intelligence and quality of life of people in my state, which I strongly suspect you have never been to and know little about. |
I don't need to visit Uganda to know that I wouldn't want to live there. And of course, isn't there a song about Arkansas saying only Mississippi is worse?
http://www.city-data.com/forum/arkansas/541357-new-evidence-arkansas-not-worst-state.html
http://www.thenewsherald.com/articles/2012/01/29/news/doc4f25b23185867147918314.txt?viewmode=fullstory |
As a reasonably successful person who spent 8 years of his childhood in Mississippi, I take offense to your statement. The time I spent outside blackberry picking during the summers and having good friends both white and black will always be an integral part of the memories from my childhood. That is something which cannot be measured statistically with regards to quality of life. |
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Axiom
Joined: 18 Jan 2008
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: So Just HOW BAD are things 'back home?' |
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| The Floating World wrote: |
Okay a lot of threads on this and another forum have posters mentioning how bad it is back home and how this has affected their plans or decision to stay on in Korea etc.
So just how bad is it jobs / economy wise in YOUR home country.
From personal experience only, not hearsay. |
The situation is UK is not great, Take Doreen for instance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA9t61PuiDc |
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bbud656
Joined: 15 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:16 am Post subject: |
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| There seems to be quite a few jobs back home at the moment. I'd go home and get into a career, but they arent going to give me 3 months of paid vacation and a 10 hour work week. |
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duke of new york
Joined: 23 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:19 am Post subject: |
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| Yaya wrote: |
| I don't need to visit Uganda to know that I wouldn't want to live there. |
And I don't have to visit the moon to know I wouldn't want to live there, but it doesn't have anything to do with Arkansas. Like I said, it's not a third world country. Do you think Arkansas is rife with starvation and genocide or something?
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| And of course, isn't there a song about Arkansas saying only Mississippi is worse? |
Ouch...I stand corrected. That reasoning is so irrefutable that I am totally speechless. You're right; the lyrics of a pop song conclusively prove what a terrible place Arkansas is. Everything I thought I knew about the place I lived for 25 years is wrong.
Seriously, man, at this point you are just trolling the state of Arkansas. If someone from a place I have never been told me it was a nice place to live, I would not jump down his throat with statistics and hearsay about how crappy his hometown is. Be a little more open-minded, or you will miss out on a lot of cool places in the world. |
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motiontodismiss
Joined: 18 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:59 am Post subject: |
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| bbud656 wrote: |
| There seems to be quite a few jobs back home at the moment. I'd go home and get into a career, but they arent going to give me 3 months of paid vacation and a 10 hour work week. |
Well maybe not at a livable wage lol. |
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