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"South Korea�s EFL Teacher Failure"
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slothrop



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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wylies99



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
slothrop wrote:
. i know many apologists will say that korean public school teachers must undergo health checks, but that isn't true. .



It most certainly is true. They have MANDATORY health checks every two years. We don't need any more misinformation thank you very much.


Yeah, they have physicals and if they fail they can be dismissed. Korean teachers seriously stress about these physicals, too. It is a big deal to them, especially the older ones.
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wylies99



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ewlandon wrote:
i dont know bout you guys but ive got drug test in the USA and Korea and they were almost identical experience.

They only watch you pee in the USA if its for the courts or for sports or if your job makes you go to one of those places that do serious drug tests. Actually one time I had a job in the USA where it was done at the job. It was a special cup that just changes colors if you pass/fail. Here in korea it was done at a lab. (NO PAPER CUP lol)


There's a lab in Korea for drug tests? When they first added the drug test requirement it was a big deal that few Korean hospitals were equipped to handle drug tests.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

slothrop wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Somehow I think that people who find they have diabetes or cancer have bigger things to worry about than a job in Korea.

Also where has the POE or MOE stated that they will kick out F-visa people who have this? And anyway The F visa is a resident visa...they can't do that without changing the law...and that would affect ALL F-visa holders.


yes the last thing people with health issues worry about is keeping their job. because as you know medical treatmant is so cheap and once you are diagnosed you no longer need to eat or pay rent.



We are not talking about vague "health issues". We are talking about life-threating illnesses. Stop trying to change the goalposts. People with cancer (particularly if it is aggressive) are not going to be ABLE to keep their job for very long anyway. So yes they have more important things to worry about than a job...like STAYING ALIVE.

On the list of concerns for people life-threating illnesses ALWAYS trump concerns over getting a job.
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Who's Your Daddy?



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They don't have to give a reason for non-renewal of a contract. A health report that says you have diabetes, or high blood pressure, might be enough. How will you know? Will you have an appeal? Of course not.

This differs from Korean teachers. They would have to be terminated, and the employer would have to explain why.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
They don't have to give a reason for non-renewal of a contract. A health report that says you have diabetes, or high blood pressure, might be enough. How will you know? Will you have an appeal? Of course not.

This differs from Korean teachers. .



Not Korean teachers on one year contracts it doesn't. The law for short term contract employees (such as E-2's and the above Korean teachers) is the same.

The law for long-term professional employees is a bit different (as are their contracts).

It's the same back home...only we call the 'short-termers' migrant workers or temps. Laughing Laughing
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