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motiontodismiss
Joined: 18 Dec 2011
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| slothrop wrote: |
true; no one wants to take overly drunk people in their taxi; better to have them driving themselves.LOL
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I personally think overly drunk people should be jailed until they wake up from their alcohol-induced coma (and be forced to pay for those accommodations), so I have NO sympathy for overly drunk people. They can sleep on a park bench for all I care. Drunk driving should be punished by real, kick-you-in-the-ass prison time. And I don't mean a glass or two of wine with dinner. I'm talking about can't walk straight, pee on the street or slur your speech drunk. |
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slothrop
Joined: 03 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| slothrop wrote: |
maybe the lagging korean construction industry can start building prison complexes instead of apt. complexes and the chaebols can start profiting via the taxpayer from incarcerating people. just like in america.  |
They have a similar thing here. They just call it military service. |
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soomin
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| madoka wrote: |
In middle school, I had a obese Middle Eastern friend with a VERY strong musky odor. I could often smell him around the corner. Whenever I talked to him, I would keep moving so that I was never downwind of him.
In no way am I exaggerating here and I say this as one of the only friends he had at the school. On hot days when he would sweat, some of the girls that sat next to him would have to leave for the nurse's office due to nausea and be sent home. Groups of them. I was assigned a seat diagonally away from him in the other side of the class and there were times I wanted to retch as well. I don't know how those girls lasted as long as they did. There were times I wanted to go home and rip my clothes off because they reeked of his stink. None of the teachers wanted to talk about the elephant in the room, but as fat as he was, he was excused from all PE classes so he wouldn't be sweating any more than necessary.
I've NEVER smelled any one so bad in my life. Not migrant day laborers, not super obese people, not the dirtiest homeless people imaginable. The only comparable smell is if you're within 5-10 feet of a skunk, but even then, I would prefer the skunk. A couple of years ago, I sat in the middle of 15-20 Indian farmers who all decided to take off their sandals on a Asiana flight for 15 hours and had no trouble. I've worked with homeless people. Even the stinkiest ones who were asked to fill out their forms outside were maybe 1/10th the funk of this guy.
Having been the smeller of a powerful, nauseating body odor for several of my school years, I certainly can sympathize with other victims. I don't think others can truly understand what it's like unless you've also experienced an overwhelming body odor.
I don't know what the people in question smelled like, but I can understand if they smelled as bad as my classmate. |
Been there, done that. I worked with some people who had never used deodorant because they didn't use it in their home country... I had to work in confined spaces with them, holding my breath whenever they got near me... I can understand the pain. Thankfully, my boss had a sit-down talk with them about how he, too, had had to learn about deodorant when he came to America, and that they were not allowed to come to work without it because we were in a food establishment and he didn't want to drive the customers away...
But again, I would have focused on the foaming-at-the-mouth dog and kept it at that... if he had, he probably wouldn't have had too big of a problem. |
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slothrop
Joined: 03 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| motiontodismiss wrote: |
| slothrop wrote: |
true; no one wants to take overly drunk people in their taxi; better to have them driving themselves.LOL
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I personally think overly drunk people should be jailed until they wake up from their alcohol-induced coma (and be forced to pay for those accommodations), so I have NO sympathy for overly drunk people. They can sleep on a park bench for all I care. |
Uhh thankfully we are in Korea not the USA. Jailing everyone for everything hasn't really worked out that well back home. |
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Troglodyte
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:25 am Post subject: |
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| slothrop wrote: |
| i think the "foaming at the mouth" part of the story is a little too over the top to be believable. like people are walking around with a rabid dog.LOL now if he just said "sorry, no dogs", then he would only have to deal with the animal rights activists.LOL |
I think that not allowing a dog in a taxi would be a low priority issue for animal rights activists here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9glPZq27kH4
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:30 am Post subject: Re: Cabbie slapped with fine for refusing 'smelly' foreigner |
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| slothrop wrote: |
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2012/06/113_112771.html
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By Kim Rahn
A taxi driver has been fined for not accepting foreigners for �smelling bad.�
The Seoul Central District Court upheld a lower court ruling Sunday that acknowledged a 200,000-won fine imposed on the cabbie surnamed Koh.
�Koh refused to take a Saudi Arabian couple in their 40s as a fare only because they smelled. It is not justified to refuse passengers because they are dirty or smell different,� the court said.
In December 2010, the driver rejected the foreigners and was fined by a district office as they reported the incident. Koh claimed the couple were smelly and had a dog with them that was frothing at the mouth. He lodged the suit to annul the fine, saying he denied taking them due to sanitation issues for other passengers and his own safety.
In a separate lawsuit, another cabbie was ordered to pay a 100,000-won fine for not accepting passengers because their destination was in the opposite direction to the direction the taxi was heading.
In May last year, three passengers tried to get in the taxi around Gangnam Station in southern Seoul to get to an apartment in Songpa. The driver, Kim, wouldn�t accept them by saying they could arrive faster and pay less if they crossed the street and caught a cab from there. He was also fined following the passengers� report.
�There is no evidence at all that the passengers agreed to take another cab after crossing the street,� the court said. |
if i had 100,000 won for every time a cabbie wouldn't take me somewhere because his taxi was pointed in the wrong direction i'd be a rich man today. |
This reminds of some Somali Americans who refused some passengers because they had dogs, and they felt dogs were unclean. On one hand, I kind of understand if they smelled very bad, but if you've got rules that say you've got to take them, then what can you say? If the passengers smelled really horrible, then I sort of understand. |
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Nismo
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:47 am Post subject: |
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| Their fuel is subsidized by the government. They don't have the right to refuse passengers because our taxes are partially subsidizing their business (and I like it that way). |
I suppose you think being overweight should be illegal, since they're much more likely to cost publicly-funded medical care more money? No, your argument is a great reason to get rid of subsidies, not to continue a subsidizing-and-controlling a private business. |
I think overweight people are by and large (pun!) the embodiment (another pun!) of everything I dislike about capitalism. I don't mean people with large frames, but people with chunky body fat resulting from laziness and overeating. Consumption habits indeed... (!)
I'm a socialist, so I think the system should change as well, but not in the way you are proposing. We will never come to an agreement on this, though, as I assume you are a fan of Ayn Rand based on your chosen avatar. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:05 am Post subject: |
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| If he'd focused on the dog not being in a carrying case, or had stated that he had allergies, he'd have had a case. He was ignorant to claim that the smell was the reason. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:13 am Post subject: |
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| If he'd focused on the dog not being in a carrying case, or had stated that he had allergies, he'd have had a case. He was ignorant to claim that the smell was the reason. |
It would sound racist if he used the claim about smell. Look, in some cases, people can smell. It can happen. Just take them to the location, and that's that. No one wants passengers to smell, but it happens. Anyway, I guess the Saudi Arabian had money and was incensed and sued. |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:55 am Post subject: |
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I'm libertarian, I guess, in that I don't think the cabbie should be punished at all. Sure, the passengers can (and should) complain to whoever will listen and publicize the poor attitude of the driver in order to embarrass him, or whatever, but I'm personally of the belief that individuals and business should be able to choose freely who they interact with, no matter how foul the reasons.
As long as we the consumer are free to boycott racist businesses and publicise other blatant cases of unfairness, then the law shouldn't be part of it, I think.
There was a case a while back in NZ where an Indian man (I think, I can't remember) was refused entrance to a privately run club because he refused to remove his turban, and the club had a no-hat policy. Some people were up in arms at the "religious intolerance" of the club, but I think it was absolutely fair enough. It's their club, their rules. He could have entered if he took off his headwear, after all. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:23 am Post subject: |
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| Maybe he was a Seinfeld fan. |
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slothrop
Joined: 03 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:06 am Post subject: |
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joelove
Joined: 12 May 2011
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:55 am Post subject: |
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[quote=]... can't walk straight, pee on the street or slur your speech drunk.[/quote]
Are all these about being drunk? |
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