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Can you do the Asian squat?
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Can you do the flat footed squat?
No, I can't. (I grew up in a Western country)
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised at how many people can't do it with their feet flat. Have you never lifted weights?

madoka wrote:
Repost, but Dr. Chang-Goldstein explains why the Asian squat is superior to the Western squat:


Lol there's a difference?
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

some waygug-in wrote:
PatrickGHBusan wrote:
some waygug-in wrote:
PatrickGHBusan wrote:
It is not that hard to do really....



Lucky you.

My ankles, knees and hips just won't flex that far. I can't get my feet flat at all, unless

I'm hanging onto something for support. then it really isn't squatting.


Interestingly enough though, when I was teaching an adult class a few years back we were discussing various yoga poses and trying them out.

I had no problem doing the toes pointed back squat (whatever you call it, perhaps it's a lion pose or sphinx?),

where you put the front of your calves flat on the floor and sit upright.

The girls could do it easy, but there was this one Korean guy who just could not do it. He would fall over every time. He actually became frustrated and angry because I could do something that he could not.

It was kind of funny at the time.


My brother cannot do the squat thing due to a bad knee (old injury). It really depends on each person I guess!



Same as the floor sitting thing, I can't do it. Never could, even as a kid.

My hip joints just won't go that far. It's actually extremely painful if I try to do it for more than a minute or so, which is why I had such trouble
at PS teacher's outings.


I imagine so!

Still you could not just sit next to the wall, rest your back against it and stretch out your legs under the table? That was too painfull? That must be a heck of an annoyance for you....
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s.tickbeat



Joined: 21 Feb 2010
Location: Gimhae

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grew up western, and I can do the Asian squat, sit cross-legged for hours at dinner, draw my knees to my chin. . .
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
some waygug-in wrote:
PatrickGHBusan wrote:
some waygug-in wrote:
PatrickGHBusan wrote:
It is not that hard to do really....



Lucky you.

My ankles, knees and hips just won't flex that far. I can't get my feet flat at all, unless

I'm hanging onto something for support. then it really isn't squatting.


Interestingly enough though, when I was teaching an adult class a few years back we were discussing various yoga poses and trying them out.

I had no problem doing the toes pointed back squat (whatever you call it, perhaps it's a lion pose or sphinx?),

where you put the front of your calves flat on the floor and sit upright.

The girls could do it easy, but there was this one Korean guy who just could not do it. He would fall over every time. He actually became frustrated and angry because I could do something that he could not.

It was kind of funny at the time.


My brother cannot do the squat thing due to a bad knee (old injury). It really depends on each person I guess!



Same as the floor sitting thing, I can't do it. Never could, even as a kid.

My hip joints just won't go that far. It's actually extremely painful if I try to do it for more than a minute or so, which is why I had such trouble
at PS teacher's outings.


I imagine so!

Still you could not just sit next to the wall, rest your back against it and stretch out your legs under the table? That was too painfull? That must be a heck of an annoyance for you....


If I were seated next to a wall, yes. I did do that as much as possible.
But even that became painful after a while. My legs would go numb and
I'd have to keep shifting positions, trying to find a way to sit comfortably.


I guess I'm just a stiff-jointed
waygukin.


What I find particulary annoying about your previous post is that you seem to figure that because something is easy for you, it should be easy for everyone else. Forgive me if I'm wrong on my thinking here, but
I'm here to tell you that we are not all blessed with the same abilities.

http://jap.physiology.org/content/92/6/2285.long

http://www.jonentine.com/reviews/express.htm


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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see what you mean waygukin!

My post would have come off that way. I should have been clearer: it was not hard for me to do.

Apologies and sometimes the online written medium can lead to missunderstandings!

Take care out there.
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laynamarya



Joined: 01 Jan 2010
Location: Gwangjin-gu

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't do it, but my K-husband can't either.

Wish I could, though!
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
I see what you mean waygukin!

My post would have come off that way. I should have been clearer: it was not hard for me to do.

Apologies and sometimes the online written medium can lead to missunderstandings!

Take care out there.



My apologies as well. I guess I'm a bit over-sensitive about this issue.

A lot of the Korean staff at the schools where I worked seemed to think

that forcing me to try and sit cross-legged on the floor for hours at a

time was somehow going to make it easier over time.

It didn't, it just more painful and finally got to the point where I refused to go to those things at all.
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see why you would refuse to go!
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leilam12



Joined: 04 Jun 2012
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol i've always wondered about this. I think its just training. Asians in asia spend most of their lives living in rooms without furniture. they sit and sleep and squat on the floor all day long everyday.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, I like my toilets raises from the ground and with seats. No bent over grunting for me....
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v88



Joined: 28 Feb 2010
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can squat, always have been able to. I'm a pale assed Canuck. Why? Beats me. I don't get why people can't. It must be very limiting. Great skill for gardening, building patios, roofing and taking a s--- in the woods...cause you just have to sometimes, especially if you own a fat pack pack and like to use it.
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unhappily discovered the Korean squat toilet my first weekend here in Namdaemoon Market, on the 2nd floor restrooms near the Alpha Bookstore.

I, also, was a total noob. There may not have been toilet paper vending machines in Korea at that time.

As I may or may not have been warned about the use of squat toilets in Korea, I certainly wasn't prepared as I had not known that you needed to bring your own toilet paper.



I refuse dinners with co-teachers due to the fact that I hate sitting on the floor when eating food, which is often the case. I tell them that my legs are too long.
Any restaurant I go into here needs to have tables and chairs. I'm sure many are in the same boat. This is one of the reasons to cook my own food at home and not go out.
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PatrickBateman



Joined: 08 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but my knees don't like it.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

matthews_world wrote:
Unhappily discovered the Korean squat toilet my first weekend here in Namdaemoon Market, on the 2nd floor restrooms near the Alpha Bookstore.

I, also, was a total noob. There may not have been toilet paper vending machines in Korea at that time.

As I may or may not have been warned about the use of squat toilets in Korea, I certainly wasn't prepared as I had not known that you needed to bring your own toilet paper.



I refuse dinners with co-teachers due to the fact that I hate sitting on the floor when eating food, which is often the case. I tell them that my legs are too long.
Any restaurant I go into here needs to have tables and chairs. I'm sure many are in the same boat. This is one of the reasons to cook my own food at home and not go out.


Thats too bad because in many ways you will miss out on some pretty amazing restaurants because they only offer floor seating! Still, everyone has their preferences, no worries.
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chungbukdo



Joined: 22 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fermentation wrote:
I'm surprised at how many people can't do it with their feet flat. Have you never lifted weights?

My barbell squat is comfortably over 400lbs and I've been barbell squatting since my early teenage years. I can't do the Asian squat.

It really has nothing to do with the parallel squat done in weightlifting. There is very little flexibility/mobility needed to reach parallel.

I get the impression that you either don't understand what I'm referring to, did not look at the picture I linked to carefully, or do not recognize the difference between the parallel squat and flat footed full squat.


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