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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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 Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| proverbs wrote: |
| i believe Moondoggy was being sarcastic. |
Come to think of it, that is most likely true. It doesn't take away from the idiocy that followed. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| byrddogs wrote: |
| viciousdinosaur wrote: |
I'm with Dodge on this one. It's a total waste of an ivy league education to teach English in Korea.
What I was actually slapping my forehead about was using these two as an example on how the market is not flooded. Two white, female, ivy league graduates will never have any trouble finding work in South Korea. In fact, any female won't have trouble finding work right now. But for men, minorities, older folk, and anyone not in Korea, I would say the market is pretty tight. I would say a non-white male in his fifties, not in Korea, and without a PhD has zero chance of getting a job this year. |
A: Those schools aren't Ivy League. They are certainly 2 of the best public unis in America (and the world).
B: I don't see how they are wasting their time by taking a 1 year sabbatical to travel and experience something different. Having graduated from those unis is most likely enough to be able to go back home and get into their field afterwards.
C: Agreeing with someone that constantly whines about being stuck in Korea (even though that person supposedly has a teaching license back home...why did YOU come to Korea to get dongchimmed at your after-school gig if you are able to work back home?.....)and berates others for doing the same job as him isn't such a good thing.
D: I am quite sure that I could get a job in Korea this year as a not in Korea, non-twenties male if I wanted. |
Even if you went to a great school, it stil ain't easy. But:
1) The best, highest paying positions in Korea are in test prep. The most eligible individuals for that field tend to come from top-ranked institutions.
2) The better the school you attended, the easier it is to spin your time in Korea in a positive light. The right school gives you the benefit of the doubt, to a certain degree.
3) Anecdotallu, I attended a school on par with Berkeley. I've been working for a Korean pharma company for a month (in the States), and the adjossi accountant who works there reported me back to the head office as someone who should be considered for international positions. Why? Because of my combination of a degree from a great uni and basic Korean ability and an ability to connect with Koreans.
Bottom line: the better your education, the more likely it's worth your while. |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| Bottom line: the better your education, the more likely it's worth your while. |
Yes, that makes a big difference, but it doesn't ultimately define you and your prospects. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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| byrddogs wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| Bottom line: the better your education, the more likely it's worth your while. |
Yes, that makes a big difference, but it doesn't ultimately define you and your prospects. |
Hope it didn't come across as if I was implying that. I was simply generalizing, apologies. |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:11 am Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| byrddogs wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| Bottom line: the better your education, the more likely it's worth your while. |
Yes, that makes a big difference, but it doesn't ultimately define you and your prospects. |
Hope it didn't come across as if I was implying that. I was simply generalizing, apologies. |
No, I got what you said; just wanted to add to it. I'm highly educated (went to a top public uni myself). Did it help me in corporate America? Yes it did. Has it helped me in ESL? Not so much. That doesn't really matter to me, as I'm doing what I enjoy (hated the management track back home). Would that help me now after being away for so long? Most likely not. The hypothetical girls wouldn't have a problem though. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:16 am Post subject: |
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| In the ESL world it can help enormously though, to be fair, as top uni degrees lead pretty directly into the test prep realm, which is by far the most lucrative that Korea has to offer. That said, seems as if we're both taking advantage of our basket weaving. |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:30 am Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| In the ESL world it can help enormously though, to be fair, as top uni degrees lead pretty directly into the test prep realm, which is by far the most lucrative that Korea has to offer. That said, seems as if we're both taking advantage of our basket weaving. |
This is true. My first offer in Korea back in the mid 2000s was at Princeton Review in Apgujeong. So, you are totally right in that respect. I didn't take it, and went a total different route.
Yes, we are both taking advantage of basket weaving degrees (me-Urban Planning/Design undergrad with an MA in GIS). I got certified in my state to teach social sciences 6-12 after deciding that I wasn't interested in my field of study and then working in the corporate sector. You? |
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viciousdinosaur
Joined: 30 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:07 am Post subject: |
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| Pablo wrote: |
| ↑ Needs medication. |
Your joke wasn't funny the first time. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:33 am Post subject: |
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| viciousdinosaur wrote: |
| Oh my god, byrddog, shut up. You turned down a corporate job back home. You don't have any trouble getting a job back home. Then you turned down a job at the Princeton Review. You are the biggest idiot on the planet and you are bragging about it. Bravo. We are so impressed you hate your family and your home country so much that you are willing to throw it away to work as a joke teacher in the world's most backwards country. *Clap, clap, clap* |
What is your problem, lady? Many people chose this lifestyle instead of the 9-5 (or often 9-9) grind. I'd never to back to that lifestyle, and not everyone here is a "joke teacher."
Also, Korea is the world's most backwards country? Go to Yemen and see how advanced it is there. |
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