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le-paul
Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: dans la chambre
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| Some foreigners should just not speak Korean. They sound so dumb. |
i know, i almost giggle every time i hear someone say 'dvd bong'. what is that? some kind of smoking room ive never seen?
anyway habits,
wearing socks under my sandals ( only at work mind you...).
sharp intake of breath through my teeth now and again.
letting the door hit people in the face rather than hold it.
dropping rubbish everywhere (actually, i only do that when its in a built up area in full view of people unless there are refuge containers of some description).
cupping my hands to receive something.
running red lights.
taking my shoes off before i go to bed.
positive or not positive, thats the question... |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:20 am Post subject: |
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| I saw an English guy on tv the other day who had learned the language and become a professional media foreigner and he was sucking his teeth and putting his head on one side like Koreans do before they say it's difficult etc... It was shameful to watch. Was it you le-paul? |
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le-paul
Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: dans la chambre
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:23 am Post subject: |
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haha, if it was you have my permission to shoot me and anyone ive had contact with over the past 3 months.
it would be the humane thing to do... |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:24 am Post subject: |
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| Dodge7 wrote: |
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| Dodge7 wrote: |
basically if my daughter wants to ask me anything or talk to me it will have to be in English because I will not have conversations in Korean |
Good luck with your future relationship. I had a friend in Japan who took the same tack and he hasn't had a full conversation with his daughter. Ever.
ALPHA!!! |
EVER? what a horrible father he didn't make an attempt to bond with his daughter in English enough. it can be done if started at a young enough age and continuely enforced. I blame the mother and father for not working together to make it happen and not enforcing the rules. the child doesn't rule the household the parents do |
Dude, be real. As long as you are living in Korea, the language of society, status, business, culture, entertainment and her peers will be Korean.
It's important to encourage English in the home, but to outright ban it will just produce long-term friction and will likely lead to rebellion.
Rather than banning Korean, why don't you encourage English? Play English games and watch English TV. Talk about things in English. But don't get all huffy if she DARES to speak Korean.
Think about it, any child who is over the age of like, 10, will just think you're a tyrannical jerk if you get angry over her speaking Korean in the house.
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| Turning into anything resembling Koreans is frightening to me. |
Do you think this attitude might be why you have trouble interacting with people here? People can pick up on that sort of thing.
Again- white up, yellow down. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:23 am Post subject: |
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| Now I am married and in my mid 30s, I can use my ajoshi licence without fear of reprisal. I fart in public, stare at people and smoke in restaurants - all the time knowing that it is my right. |
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:59 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
| cabeza wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
basically if my daughter wants to ask me anything or talk to me it will have to be in English because I will not have conversations in Korean |
Good luck with your future relationship. I had a friend in Japan who took the same tack and he hasn't had a full conversation with his daughter. Ever.
ALPHA!!! |
EVER? what a horrible father he didn't make an attempt to bond with his daughter in English enough. it can be done if started at a young enough age and continuely enforced. I blame the mother and father for not working together to make it happen and not enforcing the rules. the child doesn't rule the household the parents do |
Dude, be real. As long as you are living in Korea, the language of society, status, business, culture, entertainment and her peers will be Korean.
It's important to encourage English in the home, but to outright ban it will just produce long-term friction and will likely lead to rebellion.
Rather than banning Korean, why don't you encourage English? Play English games and watch English TV. Talk about things in English. But don't get all huffy if she DARES to speak Korean.
Think about it, any child who is over the age of like, 10, will just think you're a tyrannical jerk if you get angry over her speaking Korean in the house.
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| Turning into anything resembling Koreans is frightening to me. |
Do you think this attitude might be why you have trouble interacting with people here? People can pick up on that sort of thing.
Again- white up, yellow down. |
I really couldn't care less on how you think I should raise MY family. Stay in your place, beta.
It WILL be 100% English when I am in the room and when we are together as a family. My wife backs me on this so with both of us enforcing and being role models of this rule why would my daughter rebel against both of us. She will want to be a part of the family tribe, and this tribe speaks a different language than outside and at her school. And aren't we more special to her than school? We will show her that this is a special language for our family and little kids eat that stuff up. You really have no idea what you are talking about.
Besides we are leaving for America before she reaches middle school so sh needs the practice so she doesnt fall behind in school when she gets there.
Again. Stay in your place and quit getting so jumpy. Relax.[/img]
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:07 am Post subject: |
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| Now I am married and in my mid 30s, I can use my ajoshi licence without fear of reprisal. I fart in public, stare at people and smoke in restaurants - all the time knowing that it is my right. |
You are nasty. You aren't accepted more for doing this or one of the group, if anything you are probably being singled out as the dirty foreigner that you are. Only nasty old men act like this...you want to be like the dregs of society? Actually since you're a foreigner, you are probably beneath the dregs of society, lol |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:16 am Post subject: |
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| Dodge7 wrote: |
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| Now I am married and in my mid 30s, I can use my ajoshi licence without fear of reprisal. I fart in public, stare at people and smoke in restaurants - all the time knowing that it is my right. |
You are nasty. You aren't accepted more for doing this or one of the group, if anything you are probably being singled out as the dirty foreigner that you are. Only nasty old men act like this...you want to be like the dregs of society? Actually since you're a foreigner, you are probably beneath the dregs of society, lol |
Hey man, when in Rome... |
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:40 am Post subject: |
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| Dodge7 wrote: |
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| Now I am married and in my mid 30s, I can use my ajoshi licence without fear of reprisal. I fart in public, stare at people and smoke in restaurants - all the time knowing that it is my right. |
You are nasty. You aren't accepted more for doing this or one of the group, if anything you are probably being singled out as the dirty foreigner that you are. Only nasty old men act like this...you want to be like the dregs of society? Actually since you're a foreigner, you are probably beneath the dregs of society, lol |
Hey man, when in Rome... |
Lol well I admire your dont give a ....... attitude
I couldn't act like that anywhere on earth in public, but to each his own. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:46 am Post subject: |
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| Dodge7 wrote: |
| cj1976 wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
| cj1976 wrote: |
| Now I am married and in my mid 30s, I can use my ajoshi licence without fear of reprisal. I fart in public, stare at people and smoke in restaurants - all the time knowing that it is my right. |
You are nasty. You aren't accepted more for doing this or one of the group, if anything you are probably being singled out as the dirty foreigner that you are. Only nasty old men act like this...you want to be like the dregs of society? Actually since you're a foreigner, you are probably beneath the dregs of society, lol |
Hey man, when in Rome... |
Lol well I admire your dont give a ....... attitude
I couldn't act like that anywhere on earth in public, but to each his own. |
I forgot about that part. As a card-carrying member of the Ajoshi Society, I don't need to give a *beep* about other people now |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:26 am Post subject: |
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| Dodge7 wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
| cabeza wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
basically if my daughter wants to ask me anything or talk to me it will have to be in English because I will not have conversations in Korean |
Good luck with your future relationship. I had a friend in Japan who took the same tack and he hasn't had a full conversation with his daughter. Ever.
ALPHA!!! |
EVER? what a horrible father he didn't make an attempt to bond with his daughter in English enough. it can be done if started at a young enough age and continuely enforced. I blame the mother and father for not working together to make it happen and not enforcing the rules. the child doesn't rule the household the parents do |
Dude, be real. As long as you are living in Korea, the language of society, status, business, culture, entertainment and her peers will be Korean.
It's important to encourage English in the home, but to outright ban it will just produce long-term friction and will likely lead to rebellion.
Rather than banning Korean, why don't you encourage English? Play English games and watch English TV. Talk about things in English. But don't get all huffy if she DARES to speak Korean.
Think about it, any child who is over the age of like, 10, will just think you're a tyrannical jerk if you get angry over her speaking Korean in the house.
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| Turning into anything resembling Koreans is frightening to me. |
Do you think this attitude might be why you have trouble interacting with people here? People can pick up on that sort of thing.
Again- white up, yellow down. |
I really couldn't care less on how you think I should raise MY family. Stay in your place, beta.
It WILL be 100% English when I am in the room and when we are together as a family. My wife backs me on this so with both of us enforcing and being role models of this rule why would my daughter rebel against both of us. She will want to be a part of the family tribe, and this tribe speaks a different language than outside and at her school. And aren't we more special to her than school? We will show her that this is a special language for our family and little kids eat that stuff up. You really have no idea what you are talking about.
Besides we are leaving for America before she reaches middle school so sh needs the practice so she doesnt fall behind in school when she gets there.
Again. Stay in your place and quit getting so jumpy. Relax.[/img] |
You're staying through elementary school? You don't plan on helping with her homework at all in subjects other than English? Good luck with that.
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:15 am Post subject: |
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| T-J wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
| cabeza wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
basically if my daughter wants to ask me anything or talk to me it will have to be in English because I will not have conversations in Korean |
Good luck with your future relationship. I had a friend in Japan who took the same tack and he hasn't had a full conversation with his daughter. Ever.
ALPHA!!! |
EVER? what a horrible father he didn't make an attempt to bond with his daughter in English enough. it can be done if started at a young enough age and continuely enforced. I blame the mother and father for not working together to make it happen and not enforcing the rules. the child doesn't rule the household the parents do |
Dude, be real. As long as you are living in Korea, the language of society, status, business, culture, entertainment and her peers will be Korean.
It's important to encourage English in the home, but to outright ban it will just produce long-term friction and will likely lead to rebellion.
Rather than banning Korean, why don't you encourage English? Play English games and watch English TV. Talk about things in English. But don't get all huffy if she DARES to speak Korean.
Think about it, any child who is over the age of like, 10, will just think you're a tyrannical jerk if you get angry over her speaking Korean in the house.
| Quote: |
| Turning into anything resembling Koreans is frightening to me. |
Do you think this attitude might be why you have trouble interacting with people here? People can pick up on that sort of thing.
Again- white up, yellow down. |
I really couldn't care less on how you think I should raise MY family. Stay in your place, beta.
It WILL be 100% English when I am in the room and when we are together as a family. My wife backs me on this so with both of us enforcing and being role models of this rule why would my daughter rebel against both of us. She will want to be a part of the family tribe, and this tribe speaks a different language than outside and at her school. And aren't we more special to her than school? We will show her that this is a special language for our family and little kids eat that stuff up. You really have no idea what you are talking about.
Besides we are leaving for America before she reaches middle school so sh needs the practice so she doesnt fall behind in school when she gets there.
Again. Stay in your place and quit getting so jumpy. Relax.[/img] |
You're staying through elementary school? You don't plan on helping with her homework at all in subjects other than English? Good luck with that.
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Nope, her mom can help with homework, then once it's all done it's back to English conversations in the house.
I will have plenty of time alone with my daughter since I don't have to leave the house till 11:30 (wife leaves at 7:20am). So I can spend additional quality time with her speaking in English and I get home at 7pm so I can spend all night with her, too. It'll be fine. |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| Jesus christ. A married man with a child talking about how alpha he is on a message board while his wife is bringing home the bread. Maybe you should stop posting and try to bond with your wife and child more. |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| Dodge7 wrote: |
| T-J wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
| cabeza wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
basically if my daughter wants to ask me anything or talk to me it will have to be in English because I will not have conversations in Korean |
Good luck with your future relationship. I had a friend in Japan who took the same tack and he hasn't had a full conversation with his daughter. Ever.
ALPHA!!! |
EVER? what a horrible father he didn't make an attempt to bond with his daughter in English enough. it can be done if started at a young enough age and continuely enforced. I blame the mother and father for not working together to make it happen and not enforcing the rules. the child doesn't rule the household the parents do |
Dude, be real. As long as you are living in Korea, the language of society, status, business, culture, entertainment and her peers will be Korean.
It's important to encourage English in the home, but to outright ban it will just produce long-term friction and will likely lead to rebellion.
Rather than banning Korean, why don't you encourage English? Play English games and watch English TV. Talk about things in English. But don't get all huffy if she DARES to speak Korean.
Think about it, any child who is over the age of like, 10, will just think you're a tyrannical jerk if you get angry over her speaking Korean in the house.
| Quote: |
| Turning into anything resembling Koreans is frightening to me. |
Do you think this attitude might be why you have trouble interacting with people here? People can pick up on that sort of thing.
Again- white up, yellow down. |
I really couldn't care less on how you think I should raise MY family. Stay in your place, beta.
It WILL be 100% English when I am in the room and when we are together as a family. My wife backs me on this so with both of us enforcing and being role models of this rule why would my daughter rebel against both of us. She will want to be a part of the family tribe, and this tribe speaks a different language than outside and at her school. And aren't we more special to her than school? We will show her that this is a special language for our family and little kids eat that stuff up. You really have no idea what you are talking about.
Besides we are leaving for America before she reaches middle school so sh needs the practice so she doesnt fall behind in school when she gets there.
Again. Stay in your place and quit getting so jumpy. Relax.[/img] |
You're staying through elementary school? You don't plan on helping with her homework at all in subjects other than English? Good luck with that.
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Nope, her mom can help with homework, then once it's all done it's back to English conversations in the house.
I will have plenty of time alone with my daughter since I don't have to leave the house till 11:30 (wife leaves at 7:20am). So I can spend additional quality time with her speaking in English and I get home at 7pm so I can spend all night with her, too. It'll be fine. |
Hehehe.
I'm talking about after she enters school. If you have an idea that you are going to be spending evenings just chilling with the little one then you have no clue how much time is spent studying math, science, social studies, Korean, not to mention book reports and diaries.
Make no mistake, if you insist on creating this language wall you are going to be marginalized.
I recommend to anyone you should leave Korea before your child starts elementary school if you cannot speak, read and write Korean.
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:02 am Post subject: |
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^^
Thanks for the tip. I'll see if we can leave earlier, but I doubt it.
The homework thing I never thought about. There's ways to explain it in English and then letting her go about writing/doing the math in Korean, though. Mom will be there to help if need be, too.
I'm not saying it has to be English 100% of the time, but it will be about 90%. |
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