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andrewchon

Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Time for Asians to be militant has arrived, I'd say. Just as Black Panthers scare the pants off the White majority, Asians need a more frightening image.
How about this montage: face of a Hun, Turkish moustache, Hong Kong opium pipe, Manchu ponytail, low-heel sneakers, hajimaki-headband with a red-star, Mao suit, Psy-style small-round sunglasses and chanting slow and painful death for kojangi.
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pkjh

Joined: 23 May 2008
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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Be glad Asians aren't demanding Chinese New Years be made a national holiday, or that new laws based on Confucianism isn't asked for. We know our place in society, mouth shut at the back of the shop (even though we own them). We are too busy trying to make a buck instead of worrying about someone calling us names.
Anyways, I'd probably laugh at someone making up silly Asian names, then throw some beer in your face for saying it in front of me (if you were white, might give a pass to a black guy). |
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le-paul

Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Location: dans la chambre
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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someone once told me a (very racist) joke. It was also homophobic.
what do you call two Irish homosexuals?
Ben Dover and Phil McAvity.
I was shocked when I heard that because its offensive to Irish and gay men.
There was also another one about about a book titled 'She fell off the balcony' by the author Ilene Dover.
Again, very offensive to, erm,Western people and Asians with Western names.
Im particularly offended by the second one because Im western and the first because some of my friends are gay. |
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hiamnotcool
Joined: 06 Feb 2012
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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| The joke was terribly ill-conceived and unprofessional given that people died or were seriously injured in the event. But the joke is no more racist than a joke about Mike Hunt or Dewey Cheatum and Howe. The jokes are about names that sound like words or phrases. |
I completely agree on both points - bad taste considering people died, but no more racist than saying Seymour Butts or Bud Tugli.
I showed it to my 17 year old son, who is 50% Asian, and he thought it was so hilarious he immediately posted it on his FB page. |
I would say the difference is the English names you are talking about translate into profane english meanings. The Korean names provided in the news report translate into English meanings too so it would go over most Korean people's heads. It's more of an inside joke for English speakers at the expense of Koreans who can't understand.
If one of my coworkers called me an english word that translated into some profane Korean meaning I would call it racism. A lot of it is in the context of the situation too.
On another note, and in defense of the people that approved the names, does anyone think they were scared to ask? I have had some students with some names that wouldn't go down well in an American classroom, but I never double checked if they were just messing with me or not. I didn't really want to get into it because it might embarrass them. in this case it seems obvious that the names were fake, but at some point a person that might have had a feeling something was going on may have been too worried about offending someone to ask if the names were legit.
Not only that but what is the purpose of identifying the pilot? That just sounds like a bad idea altogether.
Also, this is being shown on the National News Stations so a lot of Korean people are probably pretty pissed about it, and I understand why they would be. No reason to defend or make light of that kind of behavior. |
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jvalmer

Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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It is more sad than racist actually.
It does state the piss poor state of news these days however when a new anchor reads that crap off the prompter and never questions it. |
It kind of looks the news station got these names, called the NTSB to confirm, this intern probably thought he was being punked by some radio station, and just said sure, sure and hung up. |
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bigverne

Joined: 12 May 2004
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:10 am Post subject: |
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| If one of my coworkers called me an english word that translated into some profane Korean meaning I would call it racism |
At what point in time did so many white people become so hysterically obsessed with racism? Are Irish/Polack jokes ok, or are they also beyond the pale? |
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everything-is-everything
Joined: 06 Jun 2011
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:17 am Post subject: |
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So if an African airplane had crashed and someone said the names were
Capt. Cluck Coo Cluck Ewwwwwoopppp ("African" clucking language sounds followed by falling sound effect) that that wouldn't be racist?
If it was an Emirates airliner?
Capt. Jihad
Flying Officer Falafel
If it was an African-American Crew
Capt. Get Low
First Officer Crashown "Tailswipe" Jenkins
Mexican airliner
Capt. Pendejo
First Officer Estupido
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The thing is all of you attempted jokes suck.
Seriously, Korean names are easier to beleive and play with. I had a student the other day called Yu Bum-suk.
That's just gold! |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:44 am Post subject: |
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| everything-is-everything wrote: |
Seriously, Korean names are easier to beleive and play with. I had a student the other day called Yu Bum-suk.
That's just gold! |
I'm sorry; it's racist if you find names from other cultures funny. Dave's has spoken on this issue. |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:05 am Post subject: |
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| hiamnotcool wrote: |
| Sector7G wrote: |
| flakfizer wrote: |
| The joke was terribly ill-conceived and unprofessional given that people died or were seriously injured in the event. But the joke is no more racist than a joke about Mike Hunt or Dewey Cheatum and Howe. The jokes are about names that sound like words or phrases. |
I completely agree on both points - bad taste considering people died, but no more racist than saying Seymour Butts or Bud Tugli.
I showed it to my 17 year old son, who is 50% Asian, and he thought it was so hilarious he immediately posted it on his FB page. |
I would say the difference is the English names you are talking about translate into profane english meanings. The Korean names provided in the news report translate into English meanings too so it would go over most Korean people's heads. It's more of an inside joke for English speakers at the expense of Koreans who can't understand.
If one of my coworkers called me an english word that translated into some profane Korean meaning I would call it racism. A lot of it is in the context of the situation too.
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I have to admit, I never took that into consideration. Point taken. |
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Sector7G
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diver
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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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It's an aggravating factor. If you got into a widely-publicized car accident and pa legitimate news station started reporting your name as Crash McQueen, which is subsequently rebroadcast by every other network and made a news story in and of itself, you might take issue. |
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Fox

Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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It's an aggravating factor. If you got into a widely-publicized car accident and pa legitimate news station started reporting your name as Crash McQueen, which is subsequently rebroadcast by every other network and made a news story in and of itself, you might take issue. |
If I got into a horrible car crash, for which I bore responsibility, and the local news decided to start blaming it on some imaginary guy named Crash McQueen instead, I'd be elated. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| In what world is this racist? Were they poking fun at Koreans? All this does is make American newscasters look like the idiots that they so often are. What's sad is that they fell for it. |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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In Korea they could win money for this. Not much chance in the USA.
It does, however, serve to draw attention away from the flood of stories about pilot errror and Korean cockpit culture. I suspect that is much of why they are pushing this issue.
Besides, it is a desperate attempt to save face and attack a media which they have little control over. |
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