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IPayInCash
Joined: 27 Jul 2013
Location: Away from all my board stalkers :)
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| augustine wrote: |
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| I pulled a runner once. |
Hah, what? You said before that you'd never broken a contract. This kind of trolling just becomes really pathetic at some point. When you see the, "80 guests, 1 hidden" at the bottom, you don't have to guess who the one dork hiding out is, trolling about some fake life he lives. That's the lowest of the low, really sad stuff. |
OBSESSED. From the hobo that can't even hold a job in this industry. 
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IPayInCash
Joined: 27 Jul 2013
Location: Away from all my board stalkers :)
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| Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| ontheway is just comical at this point. "Well under 5%" have been ripped off. Then it's up to 20% in the very next sentence. |
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Guajiro
Joined: 04 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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| robbie_davies wrote: |
I am pretty sure the employment laws of Korea state that an employee can leave a contract anytime they want. Even daft kids on an E-2 who want to go home for whatever reason they deem as valid.
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And so the cycle continues. Teacher pulls a runner with pay in hand, school thinks teachers are crooks, school mistreats future teachers due to teachers being crooks, next teacher pulls a runner. While this is not necessarily true in this case (we don't have the whole story), the fact people are advising to just run shows the generally sour relationship between hagwon owner/employee promoted on this board.
I guess employers can also terminate employees for whatever reason they like without notice to a certain extent. But then the teacher complains about getting fired without notice. We can't have it both ways, can we? What came first, the terrible hagwon or the terrible teacher? |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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There can come a point when an upset freaked-out "teacher" becomes a net detriment to the students & the owner's business (or a public school).
Better all around if they just leave asap. |
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radcon
Joined: 23 May 2011
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| Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Guajiro wrote: |
| robbie_davies wrote: |
I am pretty sure the employment laws of Korea state that an employee can leave a contract anytime they want. Even daft kids on an E-2 who want to go home for whatever reason they deem as valid.
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And so the cycle continues. Teacher pulls a runner with pay in hand, school thinks teachers are crooks, school mistreats future teachers due to teachers being crooks, next teacher pulls a runner. While this is not necessarily true in this case (we don't have the whole story), the fact people are advising to just run shows the generally sour relationship between hagwon owner/employee promoted on this board.
I guess employers can also terminate employees for whatever reason they like without notice to a certain extent. But then the teacher complains about getting fired without notice. We can't have it both ways, can we? What came first, the terrible hagwon or the terrible teacher? |
In a perfect world teachers would be able to give their 30 or 60 day notice and get paid in full when its time to leave with no hard feelings on either side. Not the reality in Korea. I have seen seemingly good employers turn to the darkside and just cheat the hell out of teachers who give notice. You take a big risk giving proper notice here. Better to just get paid and bail. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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Just do a midnight runner. After getting paid, go home.
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DO NOT do this.
Explain the situation to your employer. If you have to pay the penalty, do it. It is the honorable thing to do and both parties can leave with no hard feelings. Who knows, maybe you will need a reference from them in the future? |
DO NOT do this.
Just leave after pay day. Don't tell any one you are going. |
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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:14 am Post subject: |
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| Guajiro wrote: |
And so the cycle continues. Teacher pulls a runner with pay in hand, |
I have never known an employee pull a runner with pay in hand. They have usually left with money for work already done - and what is wrong with that?
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| school thinks teachers are crooks, school mistreats future teachers due to teachers being crooks, |
Why should a school think that a teacher is a crook though?
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| next teacher pulls a runner. While this is not necessarily true in this case (we don't have the whole story), the fact people are advising to just run shows the generally sour relationship between hagwon owner/employee promoted on this board. |
True, relations could be improved but guess who has to put the effort in?
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| I guess employers can also terminate employees for whatever reason they like without notice to a certain extent. But then the teacher complains about getting fired without notice. We can't have it both ways, can we? |
The employee has more rights than the employer, that is the way it should be because employers - all the way to the big ones like Nike, Apple, Chiquita etc - will cheat and exploit you into the middle of next week - all the big companies move their operations to places like Vietnam and partake in inhuman conditions, child labour etc. In our countries, they did the same until the workers rose up and stopped it - it is going back to their terms these days though.
So, you need to look after yourself against an employer because their profit margin is their main priority and if they can cheat you - they will. Are there some good, honest employers? I am sure there are but I bet they consist of the minority.
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| What came first, the terrible hagwon or the terrible teacher? |
What came first? The terrible hagwon or the terrible cultural working practices? |
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Keeper
Joined: 11 Jun 2012
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| Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:21 am Post subject: |
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If this is affecting your health that badly just leave. It sounds like it is to me. You are calling home every day? It sounds like this was a bad mistake coming here to Korea.
Why are you even concerned about the money though is my question to you. Health before money - always. Anyone who says something different is an absolute unequivocal fool. (In other words completely disregard their comments.) |
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rosebud1111
Joined: 23 Sep 2013
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| Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:48 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for your responses, guys. I'm female by the way, so my hair coming out since I've been here has been pretty traumatic for me. I've never experienced anything like it. Other than this shitty hair situation, I've loved my time in Korea so far.
Anyway, I decided to be honest with my korean co-worker, she works with the English teachers in our department. I felt instantly relieved after realizing I could just make the decision to bail and go home. And she handled everything with the director. I don't have to pay any return airfare and I'm released from the contract based on either my health concerns or the fact that I'm staying for the rest of October. Ill get a full month pay and time to get my pension and stuff I guess.
Money really isn't an issue to me, I just really didn't want to leave. I guess I just wasn't well suited for this lifestyle or something.
Has anyone else heard of people losing a lot more of their hair after coming to korea? I'm not bald, but my hair has thinned out so much in the past few months. It's fucking scary and I still don't really get it, but I'm really hoping going home is what my body needs to get back to normal.
Anyway, I would've pulled a runner if my school gave me any trouble about this, but I'm glad I don't have to. |
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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:19 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for your responses, guys. I'm female by the way, so my hair coming out since I've been here has been pretty traumatic for me. I've never experienced anything like it. Other than this shitty hair situation, I've loved my time in Korea so far.
Anyway, I decided to be honest with my korean co-worker, she works with the English teachers in our department. I felt instantly relieved after realizing I could just make the decision to bail and go home. And she handled everything with the director. I don't have to pay any return airfare and I'm released from the contract based on either my health concerns or the fact that I'm staying for the rest of October. Ill get a full month pay and time to get my pension and stuff I guess.
Money really isn't an issue to me, I just really didn't want to leave. I guess I just wasn't well suited for this lifestyle or something.
Has anyone else heard of people losing a lot more of their hair after coming to korea? I'm not bald, but my hair has thinned out so much in the past few months. It's fucking scary and I still don't really get it, but I'm really hoping going home is what my body needs to get back to normal.
Anyway, I would've pulled a runner if my school gave me any trouble about this, but I'm glad I don't have to. |
I was losing hair whilst in Korea, it grew back though. I am sure yours will too. Wait till you get home and everything will be fine again.  |
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rosebud1111
Joined: 23 Sep 2013
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| Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks Robbie! Im really hoping I'll be able to look back after being home and say the same thing... |
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Guajiro
Joined: 04 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for your responses, guys. I'm female by the way, so my hair coming out since I've been here has been pretty traumatic for me. I've never experienced anything like it. Other than this shitty hair situation, I've loved my time in Korea so far.
Anyway, I decided to be honest with my korean co-worker, she works with the English teachers in our department. I felt instantly relieved after realizing I could just make the decision to bail and go home. And she handled everything with the director. I don't have to pay any return airfare and I'm released from the contract based on either my health concerns or the fact that I'm staying for the rest of October. Ill get a full month pay and time to get my pension and stuff I guess.
Money really isn't an issue to me, I just really didn't want to leave. I guess I just wasn't well suited for this lifestyle or something.
Has anyone else heard of people losing a lot more of their hair after coming to korea? I'm not bald, but my hair has thinned out so much in the past few months. It's fucking scary and I still don't really get it, but I'm really hoping going home is what my body needs to get back to normal.
Anyway, I would've pulled a runner if my school gave me any trouble about this, but I'm glad I don't have to. |
Glad to see the school is on board with your decision. Goes to show it is possible to be honest and not lose out. I think the odds are in your favour that everything's going to be okay -- here's to a stress-free recovery. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:27 am Post subject: |
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| rosebud1111 wrote: |
| Anyway, I decided to be honest with my korean co-worker, she works with the English teachers in our department. |
You're at a hagweon? Then you don't have any Korean co-workers. What you have are Korean supervisors. Each and every one of them is your supervisor there.
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| I felt instantly relieved after realizing I could just make the decision to bail and go home. And she handled everything with the director. I don't have to pay any return airfare and I'm released from the contract based on either my health concerns or the fact that I'm staying for the rest of October. Ill get a full month pay and time to get my pension and stuff I guess. |
You won't actually know if you get your pay for work performed until the day you leave. Don't be surprised if there are some deductions you didn't expect. |
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goat
Joined: 23 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:28 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for your responses, guys. I'm female by the way, so my hair coming out since I've been here has been pretty traumatic for me. I've never experienced anything like it. Other than this shitty hair situation, I've loved my time in Korea so far.
Anyway, I decided to be honest with my korean co-worker, she works with the English teachers in our department. I felt instantly relieved after realizing I could just make the decision to bail and go home. And she handled everything with the director. I don't have to pay any return airfare and I'm released from the contract based on either my health concerns or the fact that I'm staying for the rest of October. Ill get a full month pay and time to get my pension and stuff I guess.
Money really isn't an issue to me, I just really didn't want to leave. I guess I just wasn't well suited for this lifestyle or something.
Has anyone else heard of people losing a lot more of their hair after coming to korea? I'm not bald, but my hair has thinned out so much in the past few months. It's fucking scary and I still don't really get it, but I'm really hoping going home is what my body needs to get back to normal.
Anyway, I would've pulled a runner if my school gave me any trouble about this, but I'm glad I don't have to. |
I always say, "honesty is the best policy."
Congratulations! 
Yes, work the next 30 days, then get your full months pay, pension and stuff.
See folks, it always pays to show your hogwon director your gratitude for having the wonderful opportunity to be employed by him/her. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:45 am Post subject: |
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| ^^It doesn't always pay to be honest, and we don't know that it will be in this case either. |
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