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Popocatepetl
Joined: 14 Oct 2013
Location: Winter in Korea: One Perfect day after another
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I posted this tonight, I am amazed at the number of British TEFL'ers
Why is Spain so popular with the British? |
Sun, prices, proximity to the UK, relaxed lifestyle, food. It also used to be the extradition laws but I think they changed those recently. |
Spain has a lot of cultural attraction but if "proximity to the UK" is not a priority then you can get all the other factors cheaper in eg SE Asia or S. America.
Check out eg
http://www.ecuadorhomesonline.com/property/CoastProperty10.htm |
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Brooks
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:41 am Post subject: |
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Spain sounds good.
But I would probably say Vietnam. Japan just has too much competition.
Malaysia could be possible.
The US is going to send a lot of teachers there on a Fullbright program. |
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markness
Joined: 02 Jan 2013
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| Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| People here bitch about the "low" korean wages and glass-ceiling and consider heading to places with 1/4-1/2 the korean package. The grass truly is greener... |
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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:45 am Post subject: |
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| markness wrote: |
| People here bitch about the "low" korean wages and glass-ceiling and consider heading to places with 1/4-1/2 the korean package. The grass truly is greener... |
No CRC's. no health checks, no one year visas, no limit on how many jobs you can have, not tied to an employer therefore having complete economic freedom, no visa restrictions regarding how long you can stay for - I mean - I can stay in Spain for life and apply for citizenship in a few years - you can't say the same about Korea pal. So yes, the grass is greener, Oh - and I didn't even mention the superior way of life. |
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IPayInCash
Joined: 27 Jul 2013
Location: Away from all my board stalkers :)
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| Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:18 am Post subject: |
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What good is all of that "superior way of life" and "economic freedom" if the unemployment rate is so high? Spain's unemployment rate is over 25%. I can't imagine salaries being that high with that number. And if you want to do privates I'm sure that 25% will affect your clientele as well.
Korea's unemployment rate is 3%.
I'm sure the majority of people here would go to Spain in a heartbeat over Korea (except for Koreaboos and gyopos)... but you have to be realistic. I just met a British guy that's a uni teacher here and he came FROM Spain and said the market is crap there (and this guy's resume is stacked with experience). I know I'd be on the first flight out of here if I didn't have such a great job. But that's why most foreigners are in Korea: they have a steady paycheck here unlike other countries where money would be more tight. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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| markness wrote: |
| People here bitch about the "low" korean wages and glass-ceiling and consider heading to places with 1/4-1/2 the korean package. |
Their home countries? I'm pretty sure wages are much higher there (especially for a college graduate). |
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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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| IPayInCash wrote: |
| What good is all of that "superior way of life" and "economic freedom" if the unemployment rate is so high? Spain's unemployment rate is over 25%. I can't imagine salaries being that high with that number. |
Because the unemployment rate is not that high in English teaching, in fact, the economy regarding ESL is higher than it ever has been. Look it up on google.
People will make excuses why they didn't make it but the odds are there are more English teachers in just Barcelona and Madrid alone than there is in the whole of Korea. Also, there is less demand for English teachers in Magaluf or a sunshine resort than there is in Zaragoza, you should have told your mate to head for a city inland - tons of work.
The salaries aren't that high in Korea in comparison to back home - but you all still live well (well, you are the exception as you are on a million pounds a week) and why is that? |
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IPayInCash
Joined: 27 Jul 2013
Location: Away from all my board stalkers :)
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| Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Arent you in SA? Seems like a dump culturally compared to Spain. Why are you not in Spain and instead SA right now if the ESL situation is so good there right now?
Im not saying you cant make it in Spain.... but like I said I just met a guy that was working in Spain and he said things are not good there. But you being in SA kind of verifies that... but thats why I asked why youre not in Spain instead of SA. |
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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| IPayInCash wrote: |
| Arent you in SA? Seems like a dump culturally compared to Spain. Why are you not in Spain and instead SA right now if the ESL situation is so good there right now? |
Because I can earn 60000 dollars a year tax free which will go onto my pension and other assorted goodies, I go once every three years, I don't drink, do drugs or pay for whores so I can handle and actually enjoy Saudi Arabia - many ESL teachers can't and should really stay near Soi Cowboy than attempt it.
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| Im not saying you cant make it in Spain.... but like I said I just met a guy that was working in Spain and he said things are not good there. But you being in SA kind of verifies that... but thats why I asked why youre not in Spain instead of SA. |
It verifies nothing, I go because that is my choice to have a shite hot pension and whatnot - going to Saudi Arabia to put 60000 dollars tax free in my account every so often is what I consider smart - I wouldn't care where it is - even if it was in the Congo, I would go there. Many teachers live and work in Spain and have no need to go to Saudi Arabia though they don't have the money I do in the bank.
And because you met one person - it verifies your 'findings' even less, I could meet thousands of people who couldn't make it work in Korea but then meet a thousand more who did - one person is not a sample. |
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IPayInCash
Joined: 27 Jul 2013
Location: Away from all my board stalkers :)
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| Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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Dude... it was just a question no need to go Steelrails on me and get so defensive. Sheesh, and I thought Korea made people crazy. Relax bro.  |
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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| IPayInCash wrote: |
| Dude... it was just a question no need to go Steelrails on me and get so defensive. Sheesh, and I thought Korea made people crazy. Relax bro. |
What you said was incorrect and I corrected you to what my findings are - being that I live there most of the time and you don't. It might be informative for others thinking about making the move.
As for Korea making people crazy, I would never set for there again - it is all yours.  |
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wes1989
Joined: 07 Jun 2012
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| Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Luckily for me I have a DREAM JOB in Korea where I make more than a uni professor and I work less on top. My designer custom 3 piece suits, VIP clientele and office adored with accolades and achievements of my success speaks for itself.
I work for a huge company with branches in all corners of the globe. I've already been offered job transfers to exotic locations but have always refused them--mainly due to my smoking hot girlfriend.
Too bad you scrubs that never worked your way up in this country will be fending for 1.5 kindy hagwons, cleaning toilets to avoid getting an 11th month firing, working 9-7, throwing on a hanbok and bowing to your superiors for a measly envelope with 10k won inside, and being forced to teach ajummas pro bono on the weekends by your boss. Suckers. |
God damn man seriously what is it with you and your dream job in every reply. Just make a forum topic and tell everyone already that you have a dream job and stop posting about it in other topics. |
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Popocatepetl
Joined: 14 Oct 2013
Location: Winter in Korea: One Perfect day after another
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| Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:10 am Post subject: |
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| robbie_davies wrote: |
| the unemployment rate is not that high in English teaching, in fact, the economy regarding ESL is higher than it ever has been. |
if you're consistently dropping $60,000 in the ME and plan to keep at it for a few more years then have you considered getting into the whole buy-to-let game?
I mean there are emerging real estate hotspots elsewhere in the EU that will give you a better return than zaragosa. Czech republic, Balearics.
How did you manage to get a euromortgage though with only an esl job? |
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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:11 am Post subject: |
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| Popocatepetl wrote: |
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| the unemployment rate is not that high in English teaching, in fact, the economy regarding ESL is higher than it ever has been. |
if you're consistently dropping $60,000 in the ME and plan to keep at it for a few more years then have you considered getting into the whole buy-to-let game?
I mean there are emerging real estate hotspots elsewhere in the EU that will give you a better return than zaragosa. Czech republic, Balearics.
How did you manage to get a euromortgage though with only an esl job? |
Hi,
I bought it outright with two years of Saudi savings.
I don't fancy buying properties that I wouldn't live in. I bet Czech republic has some nice bargains as does Finland funnily enough. The Balearics would be a decent option though but there are some nice coastal properties in mainland Spain going for a song though you really need to triple check their legality. |
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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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