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Why are rural women here so ugly?
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Mix1



Joined: 08 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ontheway wrote:
Women who are more attractive can attract a richer, more successful, higher status mate. In Korea the vast majority of high paying or high status jobs can be found in the larger cities in each province as well as the largest metro areas in the country as a whole. This means that the best jobs for men and women as well as the largest group of such rich successful potential mates will be found in the larger cities in each province and the large metro areas. So, the bulk of attractive women will redeploy their assets - themselves - to the areas that offer the greatest potential return either in working themselves or in securing the most desireable mate or both. This will apply to men as well. Since the most attractive and successful men and women are hooking up, marrying and reproducing in these locations, the children and teens will start out with better genes and have more money for enhancements. Generation after generation those born in the rural areas who have above average skills, beauty or both continue to move to the locations with greater opportunity - similar to a "brain drain" there is a "beauty drain."

There is also the additional factor that when you have a larger group to look at, there are more beauties numerically to ogle, and it's easier to ignore the rest.

Yup. Plus... all the added competition sets the bar higher.

In the small towns the bar is lower; the overall standard is lower.

In the small towns, what's the point of getting all prettied up with quality cosmetics and new Prada gear... just to go sit on a dingy plastic stool at the local chicken hoff? Especially when the competition is rocking sweat pants, baseball caps, and imitation New Balance models from 4 years ago?

(Not that there's anything wrong with that... I like "diamonds in the rough" sometimes)
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DosEquisXX



Joined: 04 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because they can't afford plastic surgery.

VICE did a special on South Korea during their "Fashion Week".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wWKjxxM6q8

It's pretty biased and the journalist is a touch ignorant at times, but it's still an interesting look into cosmetic surgery.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theres nothing wrong with males evaluating female physical attractiveness (& vice versa).

I teach in a rural girls middle school & the percentage of conventionally "pretty" girls is notably smaller than among the girls in the small city where I live & have also taught. A lot more overweight girls too.

"Ugly" is a charged & hurtful word though. I enjoy the character of my country girls much more than their urban peers. Warm-hearted, innocent, & sincere vs pampered & attitudinal (speaking on average, of course).

I'm against cosmetic surgery on general principal (especially eyelid procedures) but in fact a lot of my girls are just a tweak or two from fitting right in in Seoul, if they could afford it.

On the other hand, there are several attractive young female staff in my country school too, born & raised in the area & happy to live there. Also a good number of mixed kids with nice-looking other-Asian moms.

I sense & predict a gradual shift in Korea from an urban-or-bust mentality towards a broader recognition of the benefits of smaller town living.
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wawawawonder



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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I miss you, Schwa.
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Smithington



Joined: 14 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cam83 wrote:
Look, I called you out on your BS and you're not happy about it, I get that and your response tells a lot about your attitude towards women. If you read my post again, you will see that I had no issue with enjoying looking at attractive women. But what you did was beyond an observation. You questioned it as though you were unable to come up with any rational or logical explanation yourself. You came on here asking for people to explain your situation to you and even admitted that you couldn't get over it. It's not about being a feminist, but more about your attitude towards the situation so it's you who needs to deal with it. Also, you might want to think about not making blanket statements on behalf of women "pretty women enjoy being admired" sounds creepy in the context of the OP. As for losing a few pounds... I'm a model and am in pretty good shape thanks Very Happy Nice try though.


You sound like a nutjob. There's nothing I said that you've "called me out" on. Your post is just blather. As for you being a "model", that's interesting. Now I've heard everything. A model getting on her high horse and lecturing men about how they should look at women. Too funny.

That's two fails in a row. Keep going.
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Old Painless



Joined: 01 Jan 2014

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smithington wrote:
cam83 wrote:
Look, I called you out on your BS and you're not happy about it, I get that and your response tells a lot about your attitude towards women. If you read my post again, you will see that I had no issue with enjoying looking at attractive women. But what you did was beyond an observation. You questioned it as though you were unable to come up with any rational or logical explanation yourself. You came on here asking for people to explain your situation to you and even admitted that you couldn't get over it. It's not about being a feminist, but more about your attitude towards the situation so it's you who needs to deal with it. Also, you might want to think about not making blanket statements on behalf of women "pretty women enjoy being admired" sounds creepy in the context of the OP. As for losing a few pounds... I'm a model and am in pretty good shape thanks Very Happy Nice try though.


You sound like a nutjob. There's nothing I said that you've "called me out" on. Your post is just blather. As for you being a "model", that's interesting. Now I've heard everything. A model getting on her high horse and lecturing men about how they should look at women. Too funny.

That's two fails in a row. Keep going.


No you've got it wrong. He's a tall black male model. It's been verified by one of dave's regulars. Tall, black and male. Maybe you've seen him in advertisements?
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Scorpion



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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I hear Westerners here on Daves claiming to be models the words "plus size" comes to mind. There are far too many Westerners here, both male and female, who are not only fat but obese. There are attractive Western women here, but far too many fat people. If it's DNA then there's nothing they can do about it. But far too often it is just laziness and poor eating habits. If that''s the case then they simply opt to be fat, and that's sad.

What have people got against apples?
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Lucas



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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
What have people got against apples?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2631901/Obese-nurse-30-000-weight-loss-operations-addicted-junk-food-liquidises-kebabs.html

Kebab smoothie anyone?
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optik404



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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think we'll be seeing plus size models in Korean ads anytime soon.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use to live in a rural town. It was legally a city, but more like a giant Gun (county). Today, it has much more than when I lived there in the l;ate 2000's. But, at the time, it was local marts and small shops with very traditional attitudes. Most young women and young people got out of there quickly. Some young ones in their 20's did stick around because rent to the parents was free. But, the few who remained were quickly set up with farmer Clem, farmer Zeke, etc. They accepted their lower status in life and got married quickly. The whole singles scene is non existent. So, you got to go to the city. Not to say there aren't opportunities though you'd have to be very very very observant. Women in those places for the most part won't throw themselves at you. (Though some kind of did my first couple of years as there weren't many white guys in rural areas back in the day. Nowadays, there have been lots of whiteys in and out of these places the last few years. So, were not the big deal we were.)

If it's ample dating, you'd prob be better off living in a mid sized city or a big city. IE I'm in a mid sized city and will find some women do come up and start talking to me in English rather unshyly or get the "stare". Of course that's not every woman by any means. Just a few, but when there are numbers, as in more people around, it becomes easier.

Most people in rural areas leave and it's mostly old people and rtraditional folk left behind. Only go to the country if you want to explore nature, learn Korean, or like more privacy. But expect less women and more traditional attitudes ("I'm an ajossi, you ust respect me.")

As the economy improves back home and you're less desperate for a job, consider not going rural. Only do it for other reasons listed above. Otherwise, you'll be miserable, even if there are more fellow weigooks around compared to years past.
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cam83



Joined: 27 Jan 2013
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smithington wrote:
cam83 wrote:
Look, I called you out on your BS and you're not happy about it, I get that and your response tells a lot about your attitude towards women. If you read my post again, you will see that I had no issue with enjoying looking at attractive women. But what you did was beyond an observation. You questioned it as though you were unable to come up with any rational or logical explanation yourself. You came on here asking for people to explain your situation to you and even admitted that you couldn't get over it. It's not about being a feminist, but more about your attitude towards the situation so it's you who needs to deal with it. Also, you might want to think about not making blanket statements on behalf of women "pretty women enjoy being admired" sounds creepy in the context of the OP. As for losing a few pounds... I'm a model and am in pretty good shape thanks Very Happy Nice try though.


You sound like a nutjob. There's nothing I said that you've "called me out" on. Your post is just blather. As for you being a "model", that's interesting. Now I've heard everything. A model getting on her high horse and lecturing men about how they should look at women. Too funny.

That's two fails in a row. Keep going.


Haha! So b/c you got found out, I sound like a nutjob. Nothing that I called you out on you say? I've underlined it for you. So far you have been unable to respond to those points.

As for your second part, I'm a guy. I think you'll find that's two fails from you. I'd be happy to hear any counter argument for what I called you out on (as underlined above).
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Smithington



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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You clearly have no idea what "calling someone out" on something means. Anyone reading what you've underlined can see that. There's clearly nothing in my OP to "call me out on". Empty blather is just empty blather, and that's all I see in your post.

And if you're a guy, well I had no way of knowing that. But if you are a male model, it's still a bit rich for a model to be getting high and mighty about people caring about appearances. You're a friggin' model.

Nothing to contribute to this thread darlin', then just move on.
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cam83



Joined: 27 Jan 2013
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smithington wrote:
You clearly have no idea what "calling someone out" on something means. Anyone reading what you've underlined can see that. There's clearly nothing in my OP to "call me out on". Empty blather is just empty blather, and that's all I see in your post.

And if you're a guy, well I had no way of knowing that. But if you are a male model, it's still a bit rich for a model to be getting high and mighty about people caring about appearances. You're a friggin' model.

Nothing to contribute to this thread darlin', then just move on.


Yep, you had no idea that I was a guy, you just took it upon yourself to assume that b/c I took issues with the OP, I was female and a feminist (that alone is BS - your first mistake). What gave you that idea I wonder?

If you're going to call what I wrote blather, then make a counter argument and explain how you've reach your conclusion. You can't just say s'thing is blather or nonsense just b/c you don't like it and expect to be taken seriously.

All you have done so far is fail to respond to the claims I have made regarding the OP.

You are the one that created a thread b/c you couldn't come up with a reasonable or logical explanation for your own situation correct? You asked the public 'what gives?'

You also claimed that this was an issue "I can't get over", which would suggest it's something that you take issue with. Your angle of approach by the thread title alone pretty much sums up what I was saying.

EDIT: Even if you did think I was a woman, you told me to lose weight... really? That's how you treat girls if they disagree with you? There's like a billion dollar industry based on making women feel as sh!tty as possible, you don't need to assist.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think Smithington wrote anything really out of bounds in his OP. I mean, maybe it could have been worded better here or there, but the general attitude wasn't one of hatred towards rural women, just noticing the difference, though the word 'ugly' in the title is a bit off. I think the underlying point was the guy just wanted to know about the extreme differences in how good women look in a small town vs. a big city.

That being said, some of his comments towards those who took exception to what he wrote aren't doing himself any favors. I mean "why don't you loose a few pounds" isn't really an argument a grown, college-educated adult should make if they want to be taken seriously, especially if they have a history of calling out the locals for bad manners, sexism, superficiality, and other foibles.

I think the answers are rather obvious and people have touched on them. I'd also add that even in a big city, you might have areas that aren't exactly flooded with the best looking types.
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Scorpion



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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cam83 wrote:
Smithington wrote:
You clearly have no idea what "calling someone out" on something means. Anyone reading what you've underlined can see that. There's clearly nothing in my OP to "call me out on". Empty blather is just empty blather, and that's all I see in your post.

And if you're a guy, well I had no way of knowing that. But if you are a male model, it's still a bit rich for a model to be getting high and mighty about people caring about appearances. You're a friggin' model.

Nothing to contribute to this thread darlin', then just move on.


Yep, you had no idea that I was a guy, you just took it upon yourself to assume that b/c I took issues with the OP, I was female and a feminist (that alone is BS - your first mistake). What gave you that idea I wonder?

If you're going to call what I wrote blather, then make a counter argument and explain how you've reach your conclusion. You can't just say s'thing is blather or nonsense just b/c you don't like it and expect to be taken seriously.

All you have done so far is fail to respond to the claims I have made regarding the OP.

You are the one that created a thread b/c you couldn't come up with a reasonable or logical explanation for your own situation correct? You asked the public 'what gives?'

You also claimed that this was an issue "I can't get over", which would suggest it's something that you take issue with. Your angle of approach by the thread title alone pretty much sums up what I was saying.

EDIT: Even if you did think I was a woman, you told me to lose weight... really? That's how you treat girls if they disagree with you? There's like a billion dollar industry based on making women feel as sh!tty as possible, you don't need to assist.


I kinda have to agree. You are not making any sort of argument. There's nothing in your posts for Smithington to counter-argue against. Are you a native speaker because, as has been mentioned, you seem confused by the phrase "called you out" which you later change to "found you out" (which also makes no sense). I don't know if I'd call your posts 'blather', but they certainly lack a coherent point and seemingly a native speaker's understanding of English. As several posters have stated, there's nothing wrong what the OP wrote. If you think there is you then need to articulate that clearly and competently, because as of now you have not done that.

I've also lived in the countryside and I've observed the same thing. The difference is difficult to miss. Pointing it out is hardly sexist.
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