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Feeling Unattractive When Back in the West
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robbie_davies



Joined: 16 Jun 2013

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
Different looks are popular in different countries.

I actually had "more attention" in Canada than here. Very Happy


There you go, the Captain has got it in one.

In South America, they go big on blue/green eyes.

In Finland, if you are Latin looking, you will do well.

In Australia, Afro-Carribeans and African Americans are the kings.

In Korea, they like oblong faces and big noses - on blokes that is.

But I liked what Johnny Rotten says about it, 'if you think you are handsome, chances are, you probably aren't' Make this doubly so in Korea.

And Koreans say this to everyone, even me, and I have a face like a robbers dog.
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le-paul



Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: dans la chambre

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

edwardcatflap wrote:
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Im into my 40's now, if I wasn't good looking, i doubt id have attractive, younger gf or find it so easy to get a job here in sparkling


There's something a bit sad about bragging your appearance is still getting you entry level jobs teaching English in Korea. It's a bit like a short teenager boasting that he can still get under the hight restriction bar for the kids ride at the funfair.


It is a bit sad, yes - but its certainly not bragging.

Youd have to be living under a rock to think appearance doesnt count for anything here, especially when on paper - youre not in your 20's, American or female.

For me, my priority is living near my fiance, freinds and keeping my private students. There werent any jobs advertised where I live for 3 months this year except for kindergarten or public school. There were 9 other people applied for my job and they initially asked for an American woman. Qualifications and experience don't count for much in academies unfortunately. I bought some nice clothes, brushed my hair and smiled and Im working exactly where I want to be - for now.

Like I say, its not bragging, its seeing the reality of the situation.
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le-paul



Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: dans la chambre

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stu_miller wrote:
we have NEVER seen middle-aged, unattractive western men get attention, young girlfriends, or advantages in the workplace.



You use a word like 'we' and accuse me of being delusional? Do you mean you and your family?


Listen mate, I know it must be a bit of a kick in the balls for you to have arrived here and realised Korean girls wont accept money to sleep with you, and normal women dont like fat, gingers, but Im sure youll find someone who mirrors your own appearance in some way before the summers out. People drink more in the summer and you probably already know, Asian girls black out if you ply them with drinks a lot. And a lot of the other girls here are lonely if theyre over weight, like yourself.

Just be patient.
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misher



Joined: 14 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meh, I'm no prize pig myself but I did and do way better in Canada. Korea was fine but if I got attention from girls, they were way older than me and desperate or really plain or downright mingers.
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edwardcatflap



Joined: 22 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It is a bit sad, yes - but its certainly not bragging.


You included it in the same sentence as your young attractive Gf boast (the archetypal brag) so it certainly looked like it was in the same mould.

[/quote]Youd have to be living under a rock to think appearance doesnt count for anything here, especially when on paper - youre not in your 20's, American or female. [quote]

Like I said, with entry level jobs. I Meet a lot of Uni teachers for example, and very few of them are attractive or under 40.
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Stu_miller



Joined: 23 Apr 2014

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

le-paul wrote:
Stu_miller wrote:
we have NEVER seen middle-aged, unattractive western men get attention, young girlfriends, or advantages in the workplace.



You use a word like 'we' and accuse me of being delusional? Do you mean you and your family?


Listen mate, I know it must be a bit of a kick in the balls for you to have arrived here and realised Korean girls wont accept money to sleep with you, and normal women dont like fat, gingers, but Im sure youll find someone who mirrors your own appearance in some way before the summers out. People drink more in the summer and you probably already know, Asian girls black out if you ply them with drinks a lot. And a lot of the other girls here are lonely if theyre over weight, like yourself.

Just be patient.


I am truly honoured that a man in his 40s, who believes he's the embodiment of all that women want, is stalking me on the internet to see what I look like. I don't need to make you look pathetic; you're doing all the hard work for me.

I haven't even arrived in Korea yet, but when I do, feel free to contact me for some extra English classes. Don't worry, even a man of your age can learn some new tricks. Although, who needs grammar when they have your dashing looks? *swoon*

Oh, and thanks for the sage advice, however I've lived in Asia plenty long enough to know that even fat gingers can get good jobs and a nice missus without claiming to be handsome. Would you care to embarrass yourself any further?
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le-paul



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

edwardcatflap wrote:
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It is a bit sad, yes - but its certainly not bragging.


Like I said, with entry level jobs. I Meet a lot of Uni teachers for example, and very few of them are attractive or under 40.


And they probably have a masters, I haven't.
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le-paul



Joined: 07 Apr 2009
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stu_miller wrote:


Oh, and thanks for the sage advice, however I've lived in Asia plenty long enough to know that even fat gingers can get good jobs and a nice wife



Well stu, it really isn't very sensible insulting someone on a public forum as if anonymous, and then leaving your personal details lying around is it? You're sort of creating a situation for yourself. And if I had your looks, Id probably spend my free time with my face in a book, too (pardon the pun).

And that explains the bitterness, being tied down.

Sorry, Im only pulling your tail, ginger balls. Laughing
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Stu_miller



Joined: 23 Apr 2014

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

le-paul wrote:
Stu_miller wrote:


Oh, and thanks for the sage advice, however I've lived in Asia plenty long enough to know that even fat gingers can get good jobs and a nice wife



Well stu, it really isn't very sensible insulting someone on a public forum as if anonymous, and then leaving your personal details lying around is it? You're sort of creating a situation for yourself. And if I had your looks, Id probably spend my free time with my face in a book, too (pardon the pun).

And that explains the bitterness, being tied down.

Sorry, Im only pulling your tail, ginger balls. Laughing


How am I claiming to be anonymous when my user name is basically my name? A very bizarre accusation. I don't think I really insulted you; just pointing out some amusing inconsistencies.

Ultimately, there's no bitterness from me and really it's all a bit of keyboard warrior nonsense from the both of us. I typically try to avoid such behaviour, but I just had to bite on this occasion! Play your cards right and I'll flash you my nads in our first class. Kiss kiss
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Sector7G



Joined: 24 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stu_miller wrote:

Ultimately, there's no bitterness from me and really it's all a bit of keyboard warrior nonsense from the both of us. I typically try to avoid such behaviour, but I just had to bite on this occasion!
Don't stop! We likes it.... Cool
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Stu_miller



Joined: 23 Apr 2014

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sector7G wrote:
Stu_miller wrote:

Ultimately, there's no bitterness from me and really it's all a bit of keyboard warrior nonsense from the both of us. I typically try to avoid such behaviour, but I just had to bite on this occasion!
Don't stop! We likes it.... Cool


Haha, now I feel like Homer when he was Mr Burns' prank monkey! Very Happy
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le-paul



Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: dans la chambre

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Stu_miller"]

quote:
"How am I claiming to be anonymous when my user name is basically my name?"
I said 'as if anonymous' - there is a difference. Throwing mud on an internet forum, even with your real name, is like prodding a dog through the bars of a cage, you know there isnt really going to be any repercussion.

Quote:
"I don't think I really insulted you; just pointing out some amusing inconsistencies".
"Delusional", "The words of a man who indulges in enormous amounts of self-pleasuring" and "an utter *beep*", may not be insulting in your household, but where I come from, they are considered very impolite and rude. I cant think of anyone who would stand in a bar and be spoken to like that.

And saying 'theres no hard feelings by me' is a very weak attempt to present yourself as the better person in this argument - its indistinguishable from something a teenager would do in terms of manipulating or controlling a situation.


Watch...

Theres no hard feelings from me either, Im very sorry about this misunderstanding. I hope next time we can have a rational argument without debasing ourselves. Im truely embarrassed about my words. Sorry.
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maitaidads



Joined: 08 Oct 2012

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whew! Thanks for the encouraging words (some of you). All the others (yaya for one) can form a human centipede.
Back in Korea finally, and I've already been told by a customs agent, a Caffe Benne employee, and a man on the bus that I'm very attractive.
I don't get why westerners are so uptight, intimidated, and insecure that they can't do the same!!! Twisted Evil
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Feeling Unattractive When Back in the West Reply with quote

maitaidads wrote:
Does anyone else get this sensation? When I'm at home, in Korea, people tend to be complimentary and tell me I'm handsome or strong. When I go back to my birth country, people just aren't as honest or forthcoming. The west's lack of sharing really brings me down a bit and I think they shame me to the point where I don't feel as handsome/confident as I should (am).
How does everyone else deal with this? Should I just write off the other hemisphere (seriously considering it)?



In Korea, calling men "handsome" and women "very pretty" is commonly just empty flattery used to smooth personal relations and to gain favors. Students employ such flattery to make class easier, escape tests and secure game time. Many self-reported, successful romantic players who think they are perceived as attractive are really providing free meals, free entertainment, free English lessons and serving to provide relief in the loins of their flatterer - even if all these things are mutually enjoyed, the flattery is a means to this end, not necessarily an honest review. One female NET I'm acquainted with is so far beyond coyote ugly that a deceased blind man would require two bags to be with her, yet she blogs proudly and incessantly about how beautiful her students have declared her to be.

So, for the vainly prancing, gobstruck NETs, they tell you how pretty you are and ofter you that coveted teaching job that you proudly proclaim with your years of experience:

"You so handsome teacher, we pay you 2 million won to teach our beautiful children" ... and you blush and giggle, "Thank you, kind Wonjangnim."

But those less experienced, but also less self-deluded will reply, "I ain't that cute, and I'll take 2.3 million."
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where's IPAYINCASH? He ought to be on here bragging about his smoking hotgirlfriend and his 10 thousand dollar a week job. Rolling Eyes
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