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FriendlyDaegu
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
| So, which of his activities do you think most worthy of praise? |
Taking the plunge, of course, and making it work. The guy's proud of what he's done, as he should be. Talking about big goals and how to get there is fun and productive. |
Yes, but on the other hand being fined/imprisoned/deported for breaking the various laws here is neither fun or productive.
It's okay to go for a goal. But circumventing laws in the attempt is generally not a recipe for success. Unless of course you have a few million dollars to throw at high-priced lawyers when you get caught. |
Agreed (except for the price of a good lawyer), but most don't get too worked up over the small stuff. I worked with a few hagwons a while back (not English), and the stuff I learned would blow the minds of business grads or law book thumpers. Still they get by. Not making waves is the ultimate factor for success here. |
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Troglodyte
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:10 am Post subject: |
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PRagic
Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Good on you. Ride that horse as long as you can and bank as much as possible. If it caves, it caves; you can pick up and move on from there. |
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radcon
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:26 am Post subject: |
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| PRagic wrote: |
| Good on you. Ride that horse as long as you can and bank as much as possible. If it caves, it caves; you can pick up and move on from there. |
Nail on the head with this one. Personally, this is why I have stayed here for a long time: the money just keeps rolling in. If it ends I can say I had a good run and move on to the next chapter. |
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DaeguNL
Joined: 08 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:59 am Post subject: |
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| yeah, good luck filling up 7 tuesday/thursday classes. |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:56 am Post subject: |
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| FriendlyDaegu wrote: |
| I worked with a few hagwons a while back (not English), and the stuff I learned would blow the minds of business grads or law book thumpers. |
Like what? You can't write something like that without giving details  |
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FDNY
Joined: 27 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| radcon wrote: |
| PRagic wrote: |
| Good on you. Ride that horse as long as you can and bank as much as possible. If it caves, it caves; you can pick up and move on from there. |
Nail on the head with this one. Personally, this is why I have stayed here for a long time: the money just keeps rolling in. If it ends I can say I had a good run and move on to the next chapter. |
Yep. My sentiments exactly. We're making pretty serious money now with the study room. And we have to. I'm not as young as I used to be. I'm looking at the end of the mid-game here. I want to completely retire from here in ten years. To do that we have to have enough savings for my wife and I and our daughter. And I'll tell you, kids ain't cheap. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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fdny taking a bating in this thread by some jealous E2's lol
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LOL at all the people pretending to be pleased for some anonymous Internet forum bragger. |
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nicwr2002
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Having to pay too much tax is one of the reasons Americans started the revolution. |
Are you really trying to claim that the American revolution of 1775-1783 is a legitimate excuse for a British person to evade income tax in Korea in 2014? |
I'm saying that wars were fought over the over taxation of the people. Paying a reasonable amount of tax is good, but when the government starts to over tax it's people then there is no moral obligation to pay it. I think you have been brainwashed to think that it is your duty to pay a tax that is a lot of times unfair. I'm not sure why a lot of people are so self righteous when it comes to people not paying taxes. |
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nicwr2002
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Good on you, FDNY.
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Yeah good on you FDNY. So, which of his activities do you think most worthy of praise? Not paying his taxes, posting about illegally employing his brother in law or bragging about how much money he thinks he'll make from a study room? They're all stellar achievements  |
Whats the big deal about employing his brother in law? Why is that even a law that he can't employ it? Can someone explain to me the negative effect and the reason why this law was made in the first place? |
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nicwr2002
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| too much tax is one of the reasons Americans started the revolution. |
A common misconception. The problem that the American colonists had with the tea tax was not the amount- quite low actually, especially compared to things like VAT today- the problem was that Americans enjoyed no representation in British politics, including political decisions that directly affected them. This is where the term "no taxation without representation" came from. |
That is why I said, "One of the reasons." There were many other taxes being applied to the colonists other than the tea tax. The tea tax was just the breaking point. |
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edwardcatflap
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm saying that wars were fought over the over taxation of the people. Paying a reasonable amount of tax is good, but when the government starts to over tax it's people then there is no moral obligation to pay it. |
You think the Korean government over taxes its people?
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| I'm not sure why a lot of people are so self righteous when it comes to people not paying taxes. |
Um maybe because it's breaking the law. Maybe because the money goes towards providing support, help and services everyone uses. And don't give me that crap about not paying taxes because you don't approve of the way the democratically elected government spends your money. People who don't pay their taxes do so because they're selfish and greedy. End of story. |
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nicwr2002
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
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| I'm saying that wars were fought over the over taxation of the people. Paying a reasonable amount of tax is good, but when the government starts to over tax it's people then there is no moral obligation to pay it. |
You think the Korean government over taxes its people?
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| I'm not sure why a lot of people are so self righteous when it comes to people not paying taxes. |
Um maybe because it's breaking the law. Maybe because the money goes towards providing support, help and services everyone uses. And don't give me that crap about not paying taxes because you don't approve of the way the democratically elected government spends your money. People who don't pay their taxes do so because they're selfish and greedy. End of story. |
Yes, the government never wastes the money that taxpayers give, ever. If this was a perfect world your statement would be true. If the OP went about it the legal way, he would not make any money as the system is setup to work against people starting businesses. I hope you don't break any laws. Do you download music, tv shows, or movies? Have you ever jay walked? Everything isn't black and white. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, the government never wastes the money that taxpayers give, ever. If this was a perfect world your statement would be true. If the OP went about it the legal way, he would not make any money as the system is setup to work against people starting businesses. I hope you don't break any laws. Do you download music, tv shows, or movies? Have you ever jay walked? Everything isn't black and white. |
I'll repeat. People don't pay their taxes because they're selfish and greedy. And they always come out with the same guff you're coming out with to feel less guilty about what they know deep down is wrong. |
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nicwr2002
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
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| Yes, the government never wastes the money that taxpayers give, ever. If this was a perfect world your statement would be true. If the OP went about it the legal way, he would not make any money as the system is setup to work against people starting businesses. I hope you don't break any laws. Do you download music, tv shows, or movies? Have you ever jay walked? Everything isn't black and white. |
I'll repeat. People don't pay their taxes because they're selfish and greedy. And they always come out with the same guff you're coming out with to feel less guilty about what they know deep down is wrong. |
Wrong according to your definition of what is right and wrong? Is downloading a movie wrong? Is sharing your dvd with a friend wrong? Is having everyone come over for a party and showing a movie to them wrong? All of those things are "wrong" according to the law. To clarify, a movie is for personal viewing only according to copyright law. When a law is set up to negatively impact a person, then the law is no good and I wouldn't feel bad for breaking. Therefore, I wouldn't need to make any justification to make myself feel better about it.
I read an article a while back about the difference between rich people and poor people. The difference was, rich people tend to find a way out of paying debt, while poor people felt a moral obligation to pay debt back in full. I'm not saying that you shouldn't pay back a debt, but I feel people have fallen victim to believing that it is a moral obligation to pay no matter the circumstances. |
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