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Two American tourists detained in North Korea
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Lucas



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The USA is having so many disasters and tragedies, you'd almost think it was built on thousands of Indian burial grounds.
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falco



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smithington said.......

For fukks sake, the SS on their belts had the inscription "Gott mit us." (God with us.) And they got their hatred of the Jews from St. Paul and the Gospel of John.

Actually not true. The regular German army did wear belts with 'Gott mit Us' on the buckles. However the SS wore the inscription 'Loyalty is my Honor'. Not really the same....lol.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea sentenced U.S. citizen Matthew Todd Miller to six years hard labor for committing "hostile acts" as a tourist to the country, a statement carried by state media said on Sunday.

Matthew Miller joins Kenneth Bae to become the second American currently serving a hard labor sentence in North Korea. A third, Jeffrey Fowle, is currently awaiting trial.

"He committed acts hostile to the DPRK while entering the territory of the DPRK under the guise of a tourist last April," the short statement said, without elaborating. The Korean version of the statement described Miller's punishment as a "labor reeducation" sentence.

Miller, from Bakersfield, California and in his mid-20s, entered North Korea in April this year whereupon he tore up his tourist visa and demanded Pyongyang grant him asylum, according to a release from state media at the time. He was traveling on a private trip without foreign guides, according to Uri Tours, the company that organized his trip.

North Korea has not elaborated on Miller's charges, but photos of the trial released by state media showed some of Miller's personal possessions, including his passport, phone, notebook and North Korean visa - which appeared to be ripped. Miller was also shown sitting in a witness box, flanked by North Korean soldiers.

North Korea has yet to announce a trial date for a third U.S. citizen Jeffrey Fowle, 56, from Miamisburg, Ohio, who was arrested in May this year for leaving a bible under a bin in the toilet of a sailor's club in the eastern port city of Chongjin.

A source familiar with the case told Reuters it was unclear why Fowle left the bible behind, but said the 56-year old did not seem to be overtly religious.

U.S. missionary Kenneth Bae has been held by the country since December 2012 and is currently serving a sentence of 15 years hard labor for crimes North Korea said amounted to a plot to overthrow the state.

Earlier this month, international media was granted rare access to the three detained Americans, who in separate interviews all called on the United States to secure their early release.
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, he did say he wanted to live in North Korea, so...
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Smithington



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

falco wrote:
Smithington said.......

For fukks sake, the SS on their belts had the inscription "Gott mit us." (God with us.) And they got their hatred of the Jews from St. Paul and the Gospel of John.

Actually not true. The regular German army did wear belts with 'Gott mit Us' on the buckles. However the SS wore the inscription 'Loyalty is my Honor'. Not really the same....lol.


Same difference. It just says that millions more were wearing this belt buckle than I first thought. Thanks for clearing that up. Here's the buckle for anyone interested.

https://ca.images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=AwrSbjVaSRZUBCwAzlvrFAx.?p=gott+mit+uns+belt+nazis&fr=yfp-t-715&fr2=piv-web
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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North Korea has released two US citizens held in the country, it was confirmed on Saturday. Kenneth Bae and Matthew Miller were on their way back to the US.



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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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North Korea’s highest court sentenced an American tourist to 15 years in prison with hard labour for subversion on Wednesday, weeks after authorities presented him to media and he tearfully confessed that he had tried to steal a propaganda banner.

Otto Warmbier, a University of Virginia undergraduate, was convicted and sentenced in a one-hour trial in North Korea’s Supreme Court.

He was charged with subversion under Article 60 of North Korea’s criminal code. The court held that he had committed a crime “pursuant to the U.S. government’s hostile policy toward (the North), in a bid to impair the unity of its people after entering it as a tourist.”



I'm thinking there must be more to this story than is being reported.

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He said he was offered a used car worth $10,000 if he could get a banner and was also told that if he was detained and didn’t return, $200,000 would be paid to his mother in the form of a charitable donation.



Someone at his church was so desperate for a North Korean banner that they offered him that kind of money? Or is that just what he told the Norks, to make his story seem more sympathetic?

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