|
Korean Job Discussion Forums "The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
|
View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
le-paul

Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Location: dans la chambre
|
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:17 pm Post subject: |
|
|
quote "It's like people's bathroom's. They did a test and found that microscopic fecal matter is basically everywhere and there is really nothing you can do about it. It even hits stuff outside your bathroom".
This is precisley the reason I dont argue with people like you or my grandmother. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
|
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:15 pm Post subject: |
|
|
le-paul wrote: |
quote "It's like people's bathroom's. They did a test and found that microscopic fecal matter is basically everywhere and there is really nothing you can do about it. It even hits stuff outside your bathroom".
This is precisley the reason I dont argue with people like you or my grandmother. |
Nonetheless its true. Think about it. Smell is based on particles hitting the sensory receptors of your nose. If you smell that deuce you dropped from outside your bathroom, thats because you are breathing microscopic particles of crap.
What, you think scent is some mystical force carried by the air? Given that, and the number of SBD farts you inhale on any given day, is covering your mouth really making that big a difference? |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
The Cosmic Hum

Joined: 09 May 2003 Location: Sonic Space
|
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:34 am Post subject: |
|
|
Steelrails wrote: |
is covering your mouth really making that big a difference? |
Yes. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
|
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:03 am Post subject: |
|
|
The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
Steelrails wrote: |
is covering your mouth really making that big a difference? |
Yes. |
Nah. It more comes down to your own resilience. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
le-paul

Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Location: dans la chambre
|
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:38 am Post subject: |
|
|
Steelrails wrote: |
le-paul wrote: |
quote "It's like people's bathroom's. They did a test and found that microscopic fecal matter is basically everywhere and there is really nothing you can do about it. It even hits stuff outside your bathroom".
This is precisley the reason I dont argue with people like you or my grandmother. |
Nonetheless its true. Think about it. Smell is based on particles hitting the sensory receptors of your nose. If you smell that deuce you dropped from outside your bathroom, thats because you are breathing microscopic particles of crap.
What, you think scent is some mystical force carried by the air? Given that, and the number of SBD farts you inhale on any given day, is covering your mouth really making that big a difference? |
I have a failry good idea how smell receptors work thank you.
The reason my bathroom smells of shite, is becasue I just dropped a load. After a while, the smell leaves.
If your bathroom smells of shite, I have a failry good idea why that is, too.
Most peoples bathrooms smell of piss, not shit. Thats because piss generally splashes when people use the lavatory standing - hence the reason I always sit to piss, and hence the reason my bathroom smells like a babies bum - after wiping.
Youre grabbing at shitstraws there mate... |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
|
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:07 am Post subject: |
|
|
le-paul wrote: |
...I always sit to piss... |
Thats bizarre. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
le-paul

Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Location: dans la chambre
|
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:16 pm Post subject: |
|
|
schwa wrote: |
le-paul wrote: |
...I always sit to piss... |
Thats bizarre. |
Why is it bizzare?
In switzerland its illegal to piss standing after 9 pm.
The Taiwanese prime minister sarted a campaign 2 years ago to try to encourage men to sit pissing for hygene purposes.
Its not that bizzare.
So you like splashing piss all over your bathroom - including getting it on your tooth brush and towels? Because last time I read, the toilet has a spash radius of 1-3 metres (i dont know what that is on the old fashioned system from rome where u use your elbows and thumbs to measure stuff - 200 thumbs maybe?).
Heres something else, I also like to dry myself with tissue and not have piss dripping down my leg!
What a bohemian I am! |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
The Cosmic Hum

Joined: 09 May 2003 Location: Sonic Space
|
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:39 pm Post subject: |
|
|
le-paul wrote: |
What a bohemian I am! |
Cool. Do you get along well with Edie Brickell?
I suspect you do, because you know what you know if you know what I mean. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
|
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:42 pm Post subject: |
|
|
The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
Steelrails wrote: |
is covering your mouth really making that big a difference? |
Yes. |
If you seriously believe that, you might as well believe that a puffy down coat will give you some protection against bullets.
It's so marginally effective, given all the other bad behaviors you and others engage in and the various ways disease can be transmitted, that its essentially window dressing.
Basically, unless you immediately bust out the hand sanitizer every time you rub your eyes and never touch your hand to your mouth or nose, you're just as bad as someone who doesn't cover their mouth when they cough. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
The Cosmic Hum

Joined: 09 May 2003 Location: Sonic Space
|
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:02 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Steelrails wrote: |
The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
Steelrails wrote: |
is covering your mouth really making that big a difference? |
Yes. |
If you seriously believe that, you might as well believe that a puffy down coat will give you some protection against bullets.
It's so marginally effective, given all the other bad behaviors you and others engage in and the various ways disease can be transmitted, that its essentially window dressing.
Basically, unless you immediately bust out the hand sanitizer every time you rub your eyes and never touch your hand to your mouth or nose, you're just as bad as someone who doesn't cover their mouth when they cough. |
I know better than to use common sense with you...which is unfortunate.
You have made your point clear enough...and in the spitting thread as well.
Hygiene is not what you think it is.
While I agree with Schwa, his point is based on a well functioning immune system...which is the best way to go.
But to somehow suggest that not covering your mouth is not useful is terrible advice.
Think smaller. Large saliva droplets can carry more germs for longer periods of time...yes?
Reduce that percentage of live transmission and you can increase your own immune's system chances of fighting it off.
Often, small advantages turn into huge benefits.
Vaccine, homeopathy...just puffy coats right? (Perhaps yes with homeopathy) |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Nester Noodlemon
Joined: 16 Jan 2009
|
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:07 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Steelrails wrote: |
The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
Steelrails wrote: |
is covering your mouth really making that big a difference? |
Yes. |
If you seriously believe that, you might as well believe that a puffy down coat will give you some protection against bullets.
It's so marginally effective, given all the other bad behaviors you and others engage in and the various ways disease can be transmitted, that its essentially window dressing.
Basically, unless you immediately bust out the hand sanitizer every time you rub your eyes and never touch your hand to your mouth or nose, you're just as bad as someone who doesn't cover their mouth when they cough. |
Ridiculous!!!!!!!!!
Your argument is like saying if I don't always stay in a sterile environment I might get sick.
Of course covering one's mouth or turning one's head in a different direction isn't going to give perfect results, but it does help. Then there's the common decency not to blow one's spit all over the other person. The same as I wouldn't come up and piss on your desk even though I know we come into contact with germs when we go to the toilet. Using the excuse 'we get germs from the restroom' doesn't give me the right to piss on the floor in front of your desk.
Also, numerous times I've had Koreans cough or sneeze all over me when in an open area where there is plenty of room to take a few steps back and turn their head. This includes Korean adults.
Most all of us know you want to defend your mighty, in your case, semi-Han pride. This results in you carrying things off topic and making ridiculous statements. No matter how ridiculous an action is you feel the need to justify it.
This is where most of the problem exists. You are the same as the people doing these ridiculous acts. You think it's okay, or even when you know it's not, you still want to defend it or try to justify it.
Steelrails, you want to save face instead of facing the facts. It's a cultural problem, dude. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
|
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:03 am Post subject: |
|
|
Nester Noodlemon wrote: |
Steelrails wrote: |
The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
Steelrails wrote: |
is covering your mouth really making that big a difference? |
Yes. |
If you seriously believe that, you might as well believe that a puffy down coat will give you some protection against bullets.
It's so marginally effective, given all the other bad behaviors you and others engage in and the various ways disease can be transmitted, that its essentially window dressing.
Basically, unless you immediately bust out the hand sanitizer every time you rub your eyes and never touch your hand to your mouth or nose, you're just as bad as someone who doesn't cover their mouth when they cough. |
Ridiculous!!!!!!!!!
Your argument is like saying if I don't always stay in a sterile environment I might get sick.
Of course covering one's mouth or turning one's head in a different direction isn't going to give perfect results, but it does help. Then there's the common decency not to blow one's spit all over the other person. The same as I wouldn't come up and piss on your desk even though I know we come into contact with germs when we go to the toilet. Using the excuse 'we get germs from the restroom' doesn't give me the right to piss on the floor in front of your desk.
Also, numerous times I've had Koreans cough or sneeze all over me when in an open area where there is plenty of room to take a few steps back and turn their head. This includes Korean adults.
Most all of us know you want to defend your mighty, in your case, semi-Han pride. This results in you carrying things off topic and making ridiculous statements. No matter how ridiculous an action is you feel the need to justify it.
This is where most of the problem exists. You are the same as the people doing these ridiculous acts. You think it's okay, or even when you know it's not, you still want to defend it or try to justify it.
Steelrails, you want to save face instead of facing the facts. It's a cultural problem, dude. |
No, I'm saying that the potential benefits of covering your mouth are of such a marginal degree that it fails to justify your rage over people failing to do it. What should be a "meh, I wish they'd cover their mouth", instead turns into a mountain of rage and a ranting bash of the culture. It's not a rational, proportional response to what is being inflicted.
And again I haven't heard any comment on the face masks they wear. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Nester Noodlemon
Joined: 16 Jan 2009
|
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:34 am Post subject: |
|
|
Steelrails wrote: |
Nester Noodlemon wrote: |
Steelrails wrote: |
The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
Steelrails wrote: |
is covering your mouth really making that big a difference? |
Yes. |
If you seriously believe that, you might as well believe that a puffy down coat will give you some protection against bullets.
It's so marginally effective, given all the other bad behaviors you and others engage in and the various ways disease can be transmitted, that its essentially window dressing.
Basically, unless you immediately bust out the hand sanitizer every time you rub your eyes and never touch your hand to your mouth or nose, you're just as bad as someone who doesn't cover their mouth when they cough. |
Ridiculous!!!!!!!!!
Your argument is like saying if I don't always stay in a sterile environment I might get sick.
Of course covering one's mouth or turning one's head in a different direction isn't going to give perfect results, but it does help. Then there's the common decency not to blow one's spit all over the other person. The same as I wouldn't come up and piss on your desk even though I know we come into contact with germs when we go to the toilet. Using the excuse 'we get germs from the restroom' doesn't give me the right to piss on the floor in front of your desk.
Also, numerous times I've had Koreans cough or sneeze all over me when in an open area where there is plenty of room to take a few steps back and turn their head. This includes Korean adults.
Most all of us know you want to defend your mighty, in your case, semi-Han pride. This results in you carrying things off topic and making ridiculous statements. No matter how ridiculous an action is you feel the need to justify it.
This is where most of the problem exists. You are the same as the people doing these ridiculous acts. You think it's okay, or even when you know it's not, you still want to defend it or try to justify it.
Steelrails, you want to save face instead of facing the facts. It's a cultural problem, dude. |
No, I'm saying that the potential benefits of covering your mouth are of such a marginal degree that it fails to justify your rage over people failing to do it. What should be a "meh, I wish they'd cover their mouth", instead turns into a mountain of rage and a ranting bash of the culture. It's not a rational, proportional response to what is being inflicted.
And again I haven't heard any comment on the face masks they wear. |
It's very much a rational. Not wanting someone spraying spit and nose snot into my face is rational. This is something that doesn't have to happen. Often times the person can do this without spraying it all over the person in front of, next to, or behind them. Again, it's like pissing on someone. It can be avoided in most of the situations that it happens. It's not clean to do it even if it doesn't spread germ. It doesn't matter if it's liquid sanitizer, people shouldn't be wetting down the person near them. It's rude. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
|
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:33 am Post subject: |
|
|
Nester Noodlemon wrote: |
It's very much a rational. Not wanting someone spraying spit and nose snot into my face is rational. This is something that doesn't have to happen. Often times the person can do this without spraying it all over the person in front of, next to, or behind them. Again, it's like pissing on someone. It can be avoided in most of the situations that it happens. It's not clean to do it even if it doesn't spread germ. It doesn't matter if it's liquid sanitizer, people shouldn't be wetting down the person near them. It's rude. |
The title of this thread is "The sound of an uncovered cough", not "getting sprayed by snot.
As I said, I agree with the aesthetics of not wanting snot and covering your mouth, but the infectious angle of it just doesn't hold enough weight to justify the rage that is being generated by it. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
|
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:02 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Steelrails wrote: |
Nester Noodlemon wrote: |
It's very much a rational. Not wanting someone spraying spit and nose snot into my face is rational. This is something that doesn't have to happen. Often times the person can do this without spraying it all over the person in front of, next to, or behind them. Again, it's like pissing on someone. It can be avoided in most of the situations that it happens. It's not clean to do it even if it doesn't spread germ. It doesn't matter if it's liquid sanitizer, people shouldn't be wetting down the person near them. It's rude. |
The title of this thread is "The sound of an uncovered cough", not "getting sprayed by snot.
As I said, I agree with the aesthetics of not wanting snot and covering your mouth, but the infectious angle of it just doesn't hold enough weight to justify the rage that is being generated by it. |
LOL. It's not the sound that's annoying so much as what the sound implies. The title of the thread could have been worded in a hundred different ways, but the point of the thread is clear to all in the first post. It's about being coughed on, or having the environment around me / others contaminated by viruses. But it's just like you to focus on a particular word. And even then you didn't focus on the word "uncovered" but decided to focus instead on "sound", which speaks volumes about your attempts to derail.
Logic and common sense insists that turning aside one's head and covering one's mouth will reduce the spread of a cold or flu virus. Every single piece of medical expertise to be found on the web backs up that conclusion. Every single piece. I could link to a thousand articles or health advisories that advise blocking your cough with your arm (if you don't have a tissue). You can link to nothing. You are simply wrong. And I'm pretty sure you know you are wrong, but every objectionable thing about Korea must be defended. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
|