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swashbuckler
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| Isn't Texas just a hundred hour online course and then you take the test? And practicum can be done online? |
Perhaps, they changed things. However, you used to have to go to teachers college for about a year or so and take certain courses. |
This is more than a lifer would want to do, but Texas Teachers offers alternative certification with some online classes and 12 weeks of unpaid student teaching. http://www.texasteachers.org/how-it-works/ |
The problem with teaching without the certificate is you could possibly be stuck at your school, and, if your school is not heavenly, so to speak, it's going to be a long 12 weeks, the longest of your life. I would recommend being certified before going into a class. Texas is often desperate for teachers. |
I don't think you read the website carefully. According to Texas Teachers, if you choose the 12 week option, you are STUDENT TEACHING under the auspices of a certified teacher, not actually leading your own class.
Also, what is your definition of a "heavenly school"? |
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almosthome
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| Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 4:11 am Post subject: Outcome |
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| I am pleased to report that I had multiple job offers for next year at some great non-Title schools (was head-hunted!) and well-regarded international schools. That said, my certification is in a shortage specialist area, which certainly helped along with my previous teaching experience and an advanced degree in the field. I know some other teachers who did alt cert in non-shortage areas like English, social studies, and elementary ed who were not so lucky; their jobs are in Title schools and low-budget charter shools. |
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swashbuckler
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| May is ask which subject? Was it math/science/special ed related? Please pm me if yoh dont feel like saying it here. I am strongly considering entering your program in the near future. Thanks! |
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almosthome
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swashbuckler
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| Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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actionjackson
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| Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Would you mind sending me that info as well? I just started a teacher certification program and would be interested in what you have to say. |
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young_clinton
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You could try the New Mexico OPAL. It's all done online. You have to show videos of your teaching, demonstrating that you know all the fundamentals.
http://teachnm.org/uploads/docs/opal_simulation.pdf
You can also obtain a certificate from National Board for Professional Teaching Standards Many states including New Mexico will accept that for licensure requirements.
http://boardcertifiedteachers.org/about-certification
Wouldn't it just be easier to get into a Master's program where the first year is classes for licensure? At the University of New Mexico you can just leave after the first year and teach, complete the masters later at your .convenience. |
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haleynicole14
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| Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 8:13 am Post subject: |
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| You could also become a licensed substitute teacher with zero work in some states, including Nevada, as long as you have a 4 year degree. It wouldn't hold the same weight, but it might be better than nothing. |
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hogwonguy1979
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| Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Hagwonguy,
May I ask specifically why you said teaching in Korea, even for 11 years, didn't prepare you in anyway whatsoever for teaching in the US? Are American students in general just a lot more disrespectful, ignore you if you ask them to be quiet, etc? Just curious because I also experienced that in Korea on several occasions. Did you wife attempt any classroom management techniques like establishing rules from the get-go, having a punishment/reward system in place, etc? I agree with you about charter schools, though. One of MANY reasons the whole charter school "movement"is bad news.
Also, one more question - I did my MA at an Ivy League school of Education. Do you think, to some degree, that would help me to deal with the lack of a network?
Almosthome,
After finishing your program, were you able to get in a job in a decent school district or did you end up in a poor (Title I) school with mostly unruly or unmotivated students like what hagwonguy was talking about? |
Sorry for not seeing this earlier, haven't been following the thread.
I still believe that teaching in Korea especially at the hogwon and the univ levels will not prepare you for US K-12 teaching. This could turn into a dissertation but the bottom line is 1) students are too different. There for the most part you have high parent involvement (almost too much as this has hampered much needed reforms as mothers tend to resist it), here with the exception of a few districts you see very little and it shows, the districts I sub in where there is high parent involvement you have very few discipline problems, low parent involvement lots of discipline problems. Of course this also is related to wealth disparities which is a huge problem here but not as much in Korea. 2) How you teach is very different here vs Korea. I highly doubt Korean schools are doing project based learning for example. I could go on here.
Classroom management was just one problem the wife ran into and yes she established rules et al. Biggest problem though was trying to adapt a curriculum that was 10KM over the students heads. It's becoming a problem here as for some reason like in Korea, schools/parents/politicians believe that all kids should be able to go to college and I don't mean community college which means a curriculum and expectations that are way to hard for most students. That of course leads to student frustration then discipline problems et al. Where did the idea that the world needs more ditch diggers disappear to?
In regards to an Ivy League degree? Do you think this is Korea where an if you could barely complete a sentence yet manage to get an Ivy League degree will get you a hogwon salary of 5 mill/month? It may raise an eyebrow but you still got to sell yourself.
Almosthome:
You were lucky to student teach in Eanes ISD here (I student taught there in 1989 and sub there a lot) It is one of the best districts in the state. Thing is it can be a double edged sword because Eanes with rare exceptions hires its student teachers as their first job which means you will be trying to land a position with a likely minority/majority and Title I district. When a school district like Manor here in Central Texas sees your resume with Eanes on it, it will hurt since you wont have experience dealing with poor/minority kids.
good luck folks |
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pjstarbuck
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| Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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That will definitely make you an attractive candidate at a school in the USA or an international school, but you have to have 3 years of teaching experience at a public or private pre-K - 12 school in the USA, or an accredited school abroad (which means you'd likely already have a credential) before you are eligible to attempt NBPTS certification. No good for those of us whose only experience is teaching here in Korea.
Though NBPTS certification is useful if you want to switch which state you're credentialed in, since some states' PD requirements are more lax than others. |
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