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prosodic
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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| jurassic5 wrote: |
as for being an adoptee in seoul looking for work....
well from personal experience, i haven't found it that hard to find work (privates and other hagwon's offers) once i arrived in korea. |
I've had similar experiences, except that I teach at universities instead of hagwons. |
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matthewwoodford
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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| There are jobs out there that specifically ask for Kyopos and pay a lot more than the average hagwon job, although they require you to work a lot more too. |
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prosodic
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| matthewwoodford wrote: |
| There are jobs out there that specifically ask for Kyopos and pay a lot more than the average hagwon job, although they require you to work a lot more too. |
Most of the jobs that ask for Kyopos require you to be bilingual. That's part of the reason these jobs pay more.
The OP does not know Korean and actually is not Kyopo, but rather adopted. |
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cjonlee
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 12:46 am Post subject: |
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| prosodic wrote: |
| matthewwoodford wrote: |
| There are jobs out there that specifically ask for Kyopos and pay a lot more than the average hagwon job, although they require you to work a lot more too. |
Most of the jobs that ask for Kyopos require you to be bilingual. That's part of the reason these jobs pay more.
The OP does not know Korean and actually is not Kyopo, but rather adopted. |
The OP already found a job, why are we still trying to scare her more?
And besides, I've found that the reason many korean-americans get paid more isn't because they can speak korean, god knows I can't, but rather because they fit in better, are more apt to try to learn the culture (in general) and are far less likely to pull a runner. But that might just be the schools I've worked at. |
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prosodic
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| cjonlee wrote: |
| prosodic wrote: |
| matthewwoodford wrote: |
| There are jobs out there that specifically ask for Kyopos and pay a lot more than the average hagwon job, although they require you to work a lot more too. |
Most of the jobs that ask for Kyopos require you to be bilingual. That's part of the reason these jobs pay more.
The OP does not know Korean and actually is not Kyopo, but rather adopted. |
The OP already found a job, why are we still trying to scare her more?
And besides, I've found that the reason many korean-americans get paid more isn't because they can speak korean, god knows I can't, but rather because they fit in better, are more apt to try to learn the culture (in general) and are far less likely to pull a runner. But that might just be the schools I've worked at. |
Nobody is trying to scare the OP, just trying to correct misconceptions on this board. Most of the jobs I've seen advertised for Kyopos are for TOEFL/TOEIC classes where they expect you to explain everything in Korean. These jobs pay by the head and are the kinds of situations where you have a class of up to a hundred listening to a lecture. These jobs are very lucrative and can end up netting upwards of 8 million a month if you're popular. I'm not saying that these are the only jobs that pay more for kyopos, just that these are the most lucrative.
And most of the reasons you cite may apply to Kyopos but do not apply to adoptees. Most adoptees I've met are more apt to try to learn the culture than other foreigners, but we don't fit in better. We may be less conspicuous on a crowded street, but cultural differences mean that we don't fit into society any better. If anything, we have more difficulty fitting in because we are sometimes expected to be Korean when we really aren't. And the reason we don't pull runners is because we don't have to. With an F4 visa, there's no need to get a letter of release.
I was recently offered, and declined, a job at Soongshil University. The offer rather surprised me because they had told me in the interview that they were hesitant to hire people on F-class visas. The reason is that they once had somebody quit on them midterm with an F-class visa. I pointed out that it is just as common for people on E-2 visas to pull a midnight run, and I guess that made sense to them since they offered me the job. |
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fusionbarnone
Joined: 31 May 2004
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Don't be intimidated, but do do your homework. Apply for an F4 before you leave(to be used as a contract negotiating/clause changing tool) so you can work privates, legally(check the going rates as when koreans know you have this visa, they will try to hire you cheap. if you decide to get this visa don't let them(K employers) try to hire you at the coolie wages they pay their own English-speaking nationals(goal-post moving technique.
Check your contract carefully; download copies of other people's and maul each clause. |
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chronicpride
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 2:49 am Post subject: |
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| dogbert wrote: |
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When you naturalize you giveup all other citizenships. You're mixing up two different ideas. People who are just born citizens of both countries have to make a choice by age 21, but if you were adopted and naturalized you're just a U.S. citizen. (period) Proving that to the korean gov't might take some paperwork. But that's what you do when you get your F-4.
http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/natz/guide.htm |
It is not that simple.
There are many nations that consider their ostensibly former citizens to still be their citizens even after they become naturalized U.S. citizens. Two examples are the P.R.C. and Iran.
Another example is Russia. The Russian government considers naturalized U.S. citizens who were formerly citizens of Russia to still be Russian citizens unless they have formally renounced their Russian citizenship. |
korea is like this as well??? from what i understand, if you are in the Korean family registry and a US citizen.....you still have that chance of being forced into the korean army. |
That's true. I know a Korean-American that came over here to teach 4 years ago and he got called up to do his service, last year. |
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