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They made me change my name!
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casey's moon



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

margaret wrote:
PolyChronic Time Girl wrote:
It'll be fun once I'm married to be called Mrs. (Korean husband's family name)....it sure will be fun to trip students out. Maybe I should start wearing my hanbok to class.

As far as I know, the Korean wives don't use their husbands' last names.
In all the Korean couples I have knows, the husbands and wives hae different last names.
When I taught in the kindergarten, I was asked to use the name Meggie instead of Margaret because the children couldn't say Margaret. When I asked my new boss if I should do that, he laughed and said all the students could say my name, because it's the name of a cookie.
Margaret


That's true, but some foreign women who marry Korean men DO take their husband's last names, as I did, and perhaps PTG is planning to do the same.

Reminds me, one of my students last names is Moonshin (����) by his parents' choice. I thought they must be divorced, but apparently not. It's interesting, but not very practical, and may cause more trouble than its worth in this society.
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squat toilet



Joined: 08 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JacktheCat wrote:
My last name has the letter "z" in it, which Koreans have quite a bit of trouble pronouncing, while my first name is the most common in the English language. So I usually just go by my first name at school.


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Emu Bitter



Joined: 27 May 2004
Location: Bundang

PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Aussie passport tends to be confusing to Koreans, I came here for 2 years, left & came back again(3 years for my sins) both times when I initially entered the country, they thought my middle name was my first name. At my first school not knowing any better, I corrected them. At my first school after returning to Korea, knowing that my middle name was easier to pronounce for young kids I didn't bother & went by my middle name for 14 months.
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

casey's moon wrote:
I haven't done this at the current place where I work, but I plan to go by my Mrs. Mylastname next time I take a teaching job in Korea. In what country do students call their teachers by their first name anyway? Well, I guess it is appropriate for conversation classes (non-graded) with adult students, but that's about it. My last name is much simpler for Korean students, since it is a Korean name -- and while my first name is easy to pronounce, it is also easy to turn into another word, which is all too hilarious for kindergarten students.


I go by Mr. Action. I don't mention my first name at all to my students. It's hard enough as it is to set boundaries that they will respect without reinforcing the notion that they don't have to address me in an appropriate manner.
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No no no no no no no no no.


My name means fool IF you pronounce it in Konglish, which they usually do. They will speak their doggerel and laugh about my name, I will still be me.
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

casey's moon wrote:
That's true, but some foreign women who marry Korean men DO take their husband's last names, as I did, and perhaps PTG is planning to do the same.


Yes, I did that. As has my friend. We always get asked why we have Korean names when we are not Korean.. then we go through the process of explaining to them that we are married to Korean men and took their names. Some understand, some think we are weird.

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KorJen



Joined: 15 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say keep your name!!! or if they insist, you can always rename the director "Ron Jeremy" and call him that, all the time, in front of everyone... "hey, how's it goin, Ron Jeremy"

Here's a great game that will save you the headache of hearing "teacher, teacher, teacher!" all the time.

I always use my first name when i start teaching. after 2 days, i bring in a 10,000won of 100won coins. i give each student in my class 5. Then I tell them, "any time I hear someone yell the word "teacher" you have to give me 100won" (i keep the collected ones in a jar, in the closet) Usually you end up collecting most of them back in the beginning, but most of the kiddies would like to keep the money so they start to think before they speak and totally catch on to the "stop yelling `teacher'" thing.

its fun! and worth the 10,000won to watch them get cut-throat and "rat" on each other. It's like KinderBusiness 101
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Hanson



Joined: 20 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I say keep your name!!! or if they insist, you can always rename the director "Ron Jeremy" and call him that, all the time, in front of everyone... "hey, how's it goin, Ron Jeremy"


Funny, KorJen - laughed out loud.

I don't think Koreans generally associate an importance to English names when they are forced to choose one. Even university students I've had have chosen names like Cactus (why? well, because she liked cactuses or Cacti or whatever) or Butter (the girls apparently called him 'Oily' or 'Greasy' or some such) or Easy ("yeah, I know, but what's your NAME, princess?") or even Leekslee (Last name Lee, initials S.K., last name again - don't ask) andonandonandon.

First names also don't carry much weight since everyone is an "Uhn-ni" or "Oppa"...

Maybe I'll start addressing Koreans by their chosen profession:

"Hi, Cashier, nice day isn't it?"

"Good morning, Security Guard!"

"Bye Student, have a great weekend!"
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peemil



Joined: 09 Feb 2003
Location: Koowoompa

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I drew the line when a couple of boys wanted to be called Jesus Christ and Fat B*stard.


What line? I would of let them go right ahead.
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Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your name was Jill you'd want to change it.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! I suppose, given I have the children take English names, I would split the difference and take a Korean name. If you have a Korean GF or a Korean friend, ask her to fix you up with a good name... but of course you have to trust them... "You should call yourself Lee Sang Han" �̻���. (I'll let people who know some Korean figure out why that's a bad name.)

My name ends up getting pronounced like the Korean word for "knife". The kids, mainly the boys, seem to find it funny they have a knife teacher.

In light of Japan making Koreans take Japanese names during their colonial past, I sometimes grapple with this idea of giving kids English names. But then I think "well, it's fun for the kids... they have a secret name. And when they're older and want to deal with foreigners and are tired of having their name mispronounced they might pick a name on their own. And that can end up in names like Melvin or Bertha."

"Bertha?"

"It sounds very nice."

"Not in English."
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temporos



Joined: 03 Apr 2005
Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA

PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

casey's moon wrote:
I haven't done this at the current place where I work, but I plan to go by my Mrs. Mylastname next time I take a teaching job in Korea.

Good luck with that. When I first got to Korea, I introduced myself to the students (K-12) as "Mr. Cutting," but the director later informed them to instead call me "Mark" (my middle name, misspelled). Apparently there is no respect for the names of Westerners in Korea. Either that, or the directors viewed the children at a higher social status than me.
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