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[sundubuman]

So how does this Peruvian-turned-Jew sit with the whole "Israel is racist" epitheth????

Koreans and Germans treat those with Korean or German blood differently than those that are lacking in said "blood".

The previous slur against Israel was that Israel had the audacity to be like Germany and Korea (ie, accepting as citiznes only those that are of the same genetic/blood group). Now it has been proven that Judaism is bigger than blood and now that leads to a new slur. What's stopping a Palestinian from embracing Judaism and gaining Israeli citizenship??? nothing. Except of course if that Muslim is a resident of Saudi Arabia or Iran, for whom such a choice equals death.

Of course, the audacity of Israel admitting Jewish converts from the other side of the world is more egregious than the death penalty that applies to Muslims who choose another faith.

[Butterfly]

Please approach the counter arguments to your original point. Please.

[sundubuman]

What....are you my debate coach???

[sundubuman]

Butterfly,

why not answer my questions?

Does the fact that ANY human being, if they convert to Judaism, has the right to Israeli citizenship qualify Israel as a "racist, apartheid state" as leftist loonies tend to label it????

How many ancient countries (as opposed to newer, post-tribal societies like US/Canada et al) have such a mechanism to citizenship and inclusion? Look at Korea and Japan. It would be impossible for a bunch of Ecuadorian Indians to convert to Korean/Japanese and be welcomed as citizens. Not so for Israel.

So this makes Israel racist?????

[sundubuman]

Carry the analogy further....


Any Christian would be welcomed as a citizen of Italy.....Sweden....Armenia.....Australia......Mexico.......


or.... any Muslim could be a citizen of Saudi Arabia (not happening).....or Malaysia (200,000 muslims being deported as we speak)


millions of Christians have killed millions of fellow Christians....

and millions of Muslims have killed millions of fellow Muslims........


but the United Nations singles out Israel for a reprimand.


Fucking crazy.

[Yu_Bum_suk]

[Butterfly]

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

Are they subjects of Israel , or just another nation that Israel is at war with? I would say the latter. Which makes them occupied while a war is taking place. As I said why should they not also declare that if Israel withdraws to very near 1967 borders that they will not attack? Israel should go back to very near 1967 borders , at the same time the Palestinian side ought to declare that if Israel does then the war is over.

[Kuros]

[sundubuman]

The 67 borders???? between Israel and Jordan???

Remember folks, there was no country of "Palestine", and the lands in question are "disputed"

Frankly, I have no idea why Israel would be willing to allow a Hamas/Fatah state in the mountains 17 km from Ben-Gurion Airport. Hopefully, it never will.

22 failed (okay maybe a few are doing all right, Qatar?) Arab states are enough. When the Arabs begin treating the Palestinians as well as Israel (yep, over a million have citizenship), Britain, and the US and Canada have, then there will be peace. Because then they will be welcomed as brothers and won't feel they have to cling to the Israeli economy.

Israel, will be able, secure in the knowledge that their babies and grandmothers won't be blown up, to finally chill out and write symphonies and novels instead of defending itself against savage murderers. One can only hope. But the Arab record of giving Arab refugees from other countries citizenship is pretty sad.

[mithridates]

That sounds like it would be a good idea but it's not all that easy. If my Korean neighbours were noisy I might have to go in there and keep things quiet for a while, but as long as they promise to stop banging on the walls I would prefer to go back to my place, and who cares if they forget to water the plants or feed the cat.
I think Joo has the right idea here. Let's also not forget that Palestinians and Israelis are genetic and linguistic cousins.

Good states - Bahrain, Qatar, UAE. Kuwait.
Doing all right states - Egypt, maybe Tunisia.

I've been working extra hard to make sure the Arabic Wikipedia doesn't catch up with ours.

[bucheon bum]

[Yu_Bum_suk]

INteresting that someone mentioned the million-plus Palestinians who have Israeli citizenship. How many of them have been suicide bombers? Only a couple. The other 3.5 million are subjects pure and simple. Israel's plan is to wall them into bantustans, and it's little wonder (though still aprehensible) that many of them resort to the violence they do. By it's apartheid vision Israel is simply ensuring that they will always have Palestinians wanting to kill them, while bringing on the hatred of the rest of the ME, hypocrits though most of the other nations are.

As I've said before, the easiest way for the US to safeguard itself against future Islamist terrorists would be to cut off funding to Israel until it withdrew to it's 1967 borders.

[Summer Wine]

Summer Wine wrote:
[b][u]...(I have been drinking, so wait until I am sober and I will discuss this properly....


Quite frankly, it's hard to tell the difference. Lost tribes? Are you out of your mind? Or just drunk?_________________


I apologise, I had not read your article properly, though I had been questioning as to whether the Iraeli thought that they were a lost tribe as in the case of the converting tribe in India.

I am interested in your comment that you find my topics a little difficult. Is that all of them or just the few you disagree with. I have written some that you do not reply to at all. Is that because you really hate them and find them not worthy of discussion or what? Just Curious.

[R. S. Refugee]