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[Guri Guy]

Hello, my name is Trevor Collins. I defend wife beaters and yet I am offended when someone calls me names. What are you going to do? Beat me unconcious with an umbrella? I probably had it coming to me, I'm sure. Sorry to burst your bubble but we live in the 21st century now, not the middle ages.
I am a mature human being who is well adjusted socially and sometimes becomes morally indignant when I see stupid *ss sh*t written on this forum. This is one of those times. Beating the living hell out of a woman with an umbrella is never justified. I ask again, what the hell is wrong with you? Then again, maybe I don't want to know.
Go defend your wife beaters and domestic abusers. There is an old saying, "If you lay down with dogs, you are going to get fleas."
I will keep company with well adjusted mature human beings that know right from wrong. That includes Canadians, Americans, Koreans or whoever.

[blackbird]

Here is a disturbing thought. Assume for a moment that there is no difference between a man fighting with a man and and a man fighting with a woman. If two friends were walking down the road, and friend 1 is involved in a dispute that turns violent, would friend 2 be held accountable for jumping in on the side of friend 1? What if friend 1 was a girl? What if they are actually married? For instance, my wife tells some guy to piss off for hitting on her. He starts beating the h*ll out of her. I jump in on it..... and go to jail?

[trevorcollins]

[man of the year]

[JongnoGuru]

This thread reminds me of one of the things I'd forgotten about Korean apartment living, and one that I don't miss for a minute. Along with the all the wonderful convenience of living cheek by jowl was being able to hear my neighbours' bodily functions through bathroom walls, and hear screaming wives & kids at strange hours. If it were a matter of calling the police and have them come by and check to see if people are all right, I wouldn't have felt so bad and helpless. I might even have been able to get back to sleep at 2 a.m. But they wouldn't even come and look, or tell the psychos to keep the noise down.

[Guri Guy]

Whatever you say Trevor Collins. I suppose I owe you an apology. I guess I jumped to a strange leap of logic that everyone deserves to be treated like a human being. There are other ways to deal with problems than resorting to violence. That is all I am saying. Have you perhaps ever heard of the term "excessive force"? Do you honestly think it is acceptable to beat someone within an inch of their lives? I'm afraid the onus is on you. So why don't you can the sarcasm and the cutesy little comments and tell me an actual situation where this is acceptable.
Obviously I have a lot to learn so please enlighten me on when beating the sh*t out of your wife is acceptable.

[Kimchieluver]

When what's her face cut what's his face's pee pee off. I would I have beaten the crap out of her. Other than that I can't think of any that I've heard of to justify domestic abuse. However, I'm from Canada and have witnessed domestic abuse there too. But as RR posted a few days ago, women are large contributors to domestic abuse as well.

[bigverne]

'we live in the 21st century now'

So, tell me, do you oppose all forms of violence, under any circumstances, or only violence used against women?

Under what circumstances is violence acceptable or excusable, and what relevance does gender have to the acceptability of such acts?

[turtlepi1]

RR: this would be a great time to post those links you have on the percentage of women spouses that through the first punch.

I personally would never hit a woman. I'm not sure it is even something that is a possibility. That though comes through social conditioning not from an innate sense of right and wrong.

In college I had a friend who was a little bit of a sociopath. We would go out and he would usually get in a fight. Nothing he started but his first answer was violence. I've gotta admit I've seen him treat women as equals on several occasions. WHAMP!

Not taking a side here. Just posting some thoughts.

[yesterday's child]

I can't put into words how terrible a transgression violence against women has become.

[TheDude]

Thread re-openned for business.

Keep it sane and on topic. Also, try to make sure you actually contribute to a discussion and that you do not simply post insults.

The subject of abuse to women is sensitive and extra attention should be paid to what you post.

[Corporal]

[bosintang]

I hate to sound this way, but you shouldn't have gotten involved at all. If you think this is the first or last time this woman is going to be beaten, you're most likely, and very sadly wrong. You can only make things worse by getting involved.

If the police won't do anything about it, the neighbours won't do anything about it, then you as a foreigner only put yourself at risk in this situation for nothing.

[Guri Guy]

[JongnoGuru]