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Zionism and the Third Reich
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Bulsajo



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's your best response to the BBC video?



http://www.indybay.org/uploads/banking_hitler.rm

But it was not just the Thule Society that gave Hitler the support he needed to become the leader of the German government. There were additional sources of Hitler's strength. One who offered an explanation of Hitler's easy rise to power was Walter Langer, a noted psychoanalyst. Langer wrote in his book The Mind of Adolf Hitler that it was his theory that Hitler was himself one-quarter Jewish and the grandson of a Rothschild.

While i've gotta give you credit for your creative ridicule ( truth is even i got a chuckle out of it ) ... logical clearly it is not.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ad+hominem+fallacy
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diablo3



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was an interesting time in German politics when Hitler came into power. I wonder if there was some motive behind Hitler beoming Führer und Reichskanzler (Leader and Chancellor) of Germany from 1934.

Remember, he was the Chancellor of Germany from 1933, but not yet leader.

Any insight into this?
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

diablo3 wrote:
It was an interesting time in German politics when Hitler came into power. I wonder if there was some motive behind Hitler beoming Führer und Reichskanzler (Leader and Chancellor) of Germany from 1934.

Remember, he was the Chancellor of Germany from 1933, but not yet leader.

Any insight into this?


Well, the economy had tanked due to the weight of WW1 reparations accorded under the Treaty of Versailles. Inflation had become an out of control monster. Desperate times led to desperate measures.

Then there was Hitler's "false flag" power grab vis a vis the 9/11 -Reichstag fire.

I dunno Diablo. You raise a good point. Sorry i can't be of any real help.

Did you watch the documentary?
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't anyone else find this just a little bit "interesting"? I know i certainly did when the BBC ran the story a few years back. I love the spin they give the story too; quite the "sense of humor" ... ha ... ha ... ha ...

Adolf Hitler's fake passport



This fake passport for Adolf Hitler was made by the Special Operations Executive (SOE). The work of this group was to organise resistance in countries taken over by the Germans during the Second World War. After the war, examples of the documents they made were preserved to illustrate their work.

SOE relied on the use of undercover agents or spies. They sent nearly 500 agents into France alone. To assist these agents, SOE ran a forgery section that made fake documents ranging from passports to firearms licences, travel permits and work passes. They often made use of the skills of counterfeiters and forgers recently released from prison.

This passport shows what the forgers were capable of producing. It also hints at their sense of humour and their opinion of Hitler and his beliefs. They've given Hitler's passport a red 'J' (which stood for 'Jew' on a German passport).

He has a visa allowing his entry into Palestine, which was under British control at that time. The passport also describes Hitler's occupation as a 'painter'. Under distinguishing features, they list his 'little moustache'.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/museum/item.asp?item_id=46
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

diablo3 wrote:
It was an interesting time in German politics when Hitler came into power. I wonder if there was some motive behind Hitler beoming Fuhrer und Reichskanzler (Leader and Chancellor) of Germany from 1934.

Remember, he was the Chancellor of Germany from 1933, but not yet leader.

Any insight into this?


VanIslander wrote:
This is very true.

Anti-Zionist doesn't necessarily mean anti-semitic. In fact, most Jewish people were anti-zionist up until the second world war. Hitler indirectly changed all that.

Hmmmmmm ... World Zionism declared war on Germany in 1933?

Is this covered in any of our high school history classes? Must not be that important i guess.

Diablo, dunno if this helps answer your question or not, but it's well worth listening to all the same.



Ex-Zionist Benjamin Freedman speaks at the Willard Hotel, Washington D.C., in 1961

This is a very important speech that verifies what many people have been complaining about for decades.

LISTEN

http://www.erichufschmid.net.nyud.net:8090/BenjaminFreedmanSpeechPart_1.mp3
http://www.erichufschmid.net.nyud.net:8090/BenjaminFreedmanSpeechPart_2.mp3
http://www.erichufschmid.net/BenjaminFreedmanSpeechPart_3.mp3
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hitler's Jewish Soldiers Idea
The Untold Story of Nazi Racial Laws
and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military

Bryan Mark Rigg

New in Paperback: September 2004
528 pages, 95 photographs, 6 x 9
Modern War Studies
Paper ISBN 978-0-7006-1358-8, $16.95

Also available in cloth:
ISBN 978-0-7006-1178-2, $29.95



As featured on NBC-TV's Dateline
(first aired Sunday, June 9, 2002)
WINNER OF THE 2003 COLBY AWARD

William E. Colby Military Writers Symposium
Also of interest by author Bryan Mark Rigg: Rescued from the Reich: How One of Hitler's Soldiers Saved the Lubavitcher Rebbe.

On the murderous road to "racial purity" Hitler encountered unexpected detours, largely due to his own crazed views and inconsistent policies regarding Jewish identity.

After centuries of Jewish assimilation and intermarriage in German society, he discovered that eliminating Jews from the rest of the population was more difficult than he'd anticipated. As Bryan Mark Rigg shows in this provocative new study, nowhere was that heinous process more fraught with contradiction and confusion than in the German military.

Contrary to conventional views, Rigg reveals that a startlingly large number of German military men were classified by the Nazis as Jews or "partial-Jews" (Mischlinge), in the wake of racial laws first enacted in the mid-1930s.

Rigg demonstrates that the actual number was much higher than previously thought--perhaps as many as 150,000 men, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers, even generals and admirals.

As Rigg fully documents for the first time, a great many of these men did not even consider themselves Jewish and had embraced the military as a way of life and as devoted patriots eager to serve a revived German nation. In turn, they had been embraced by the Wehrmacht, which prior to Hitler had given little thought to the "race" of these men but which was now forced to look deeply into the ancestry of its soldiers.

The process of investigation and removal, however, was marred by a highly inconsistent application of Nazi law. Numerous "exemptions" were made in order to allow a soldier to stay within the ranks or to spare a soldier's parent, spouse, or other relative from incarceration or far worse. (Hitler's own signature can be found on many of these "exemption" orders.) But as the war dragged on, Nazi politics came to trump military logic, even in the face of the Wehrmacht's growing manpower needs, closing legal loopholes and making it virtually impossible for these soldiers to escape the fate of millions of other victims of the Third Reich.

Based on a deep and wide-ranging research in archival and secondary sources, as well as extensive interviews with more than four hundred Mischlinge and their relatives, Rigg's study breaks truly new ground in a crowded field and shows from yet another angle the extremely flawed, dishonest, demeaning, and tragic essence of Hitler's rule.

http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html
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Slep



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the article you show is a headline from a tabloid. The only place it was written.
Moreoever, it referred to a general boycott of products as a result of further impinging on Jewish rights.

It's akin to blacks 'declaring war' on South Africa during the beginning of the apartheid government.
Babo!
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twg



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys are debating a guy who thinks the pyramids were built by UFOs using Big-Foot and the Loch Ness Monster as laborers... That he believes in the Five Jew Bankers that control the world's economy isn't that much of a step.
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JMO



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't like jews. They control the world, people need to see the truth. They secretly coluded with the Nazis to come up with the final solution.

Why are n't they teaching this in school Idea

My argument is overwhelming. Bow before my capacity to use the bold function.

I'd love to go to Igotthisguitar school. In science class we can discuss the evolution of bigfoot and nessie. in history class we can study about JFK assassination, pyramid making UFOs and celts in new zealand. In computer class we would learn how to hide our compete looniness behind the bold button.
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, I just noticed the dates on these threads.

Why are people digging up this crap?
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Adventurer



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Zionism and the Third Reich Reply with quote

igotthisguitar wrote:
Zionism and the Third Reich
by Mark Weber

Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the German port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name, "Tel Aviv," while a swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member.

Many years later a traveler aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a "metaphysical absurdity."1

Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a little-known chapter of history: The wide-ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's Third Reich.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n4p29_Weber.html



You are putting too much stock into this just like the pro-Israelis who put too much stock into the Palestinian mufti Husseini having connexions to the Nazis. The Zionist movement was not a pure movement. They collaborated with many people to get their objectives done. Herzl also talked with Russians who killed Socialist Jews in Russia. Obviously, Zionism as a right wing nationalism, at the time, was against universal Jewish socialist ideas of equality for all Europeans. It mirrored the nationalism it saw in Europe somewhat. Zionism does have its roots in race-based nationalism like pan Slavic nationalism and other forms of nationalism that existed in Europe. That is true. The Jews in Germany had to cooperate with the Nazis. Also, in 1935, things were a bit different in Germany. You are more focused on your axe to grind against Jewry rather than being objective. This is from a person who doesn't like the origin of Zionism and many of its original leaders in some cases were fascist with the exception of Martin Buber, Judah Magnes, and Ahad Ha'am (Asher Ginsburg) etc...
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IGTG,

Did you know that he words the song In-a-gadda-da-vida where actually supposed to be "in the garden of eden".

an obvious biblical refernce encoded by the zionists who controll the recording industry around the world.

I got to go.

cbc
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cosmo



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

igotthisguitar wrote:
One who offered an explanation of Hitler's easy rise to power was Walter Langer, a noted psychoanalyst. Langer wrote in his book The Mind of Adolf Hitler that it was his theory that Hitler was himself one-quarter Jewish and the grandson of a Rothschild.


Abraham Lincoln was Jewish. JFK was Jewish. They were shot in the temple.
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 9:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Zionism and the Third Reich Reply with quote

Adventurer wrote:
You are putting too much stock into this just like the pro-Israelis who put too much stock into the Palestinian mufti Husseini having connexions to the Nazis. The Zionist movement was not a pure movement. They collaborated with many people to get their objectives done. Herzl also talked with Russians who killed Socialist Jews in Russia. Obviously, Zionism as a right wing nationalism, at the time, was against universal Jewish socialist ideas of equality for all Europeans. It mirrored the nationalism it saw in Europe somewhat. Zionism does have its roots in race-based nationalism like pan Slavic nationalism and other forms of nationalism that existed in Europe. That is true. The Jews in Germany had to cooperate with the Nazis. Also, in 1935, things were a bit different in Germany. You are more focused on your axe to grind against Jewry rather than being objective. This is from a person who doesn't like the origin of Zionism and many of its original leaders in some cases were fascist with the exception of Martin Buber, Judah Magnes, and Ahad Ha'am (Asher Ginsburg) etc...


Impressive comments Adventurer.

Your insight & input is greatly valued. What precisely is "Jewry"?
You lost me here Shocked

The thing that is plain to any child of course is "WHO" profitted from the persecution of Europe's Jews?

Who? Is-RA-el Twisted Evil

The "burnt offering" Holocaust was precisely what they (the Zionists) needed in order to implement their final "solution".

Hitler was inarguably one of history's greatest Zionists Idea

Without him & the systemic persecution there would be no Israel. Period.

Indeed politics makes for unexpected bedfellows, truth IS stranger than fiction.

Oh yes, RU familiar with the history of the Ash-ke-NAZIS?
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