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If had go to back to your home country.. where would you go?
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dmbfan

Joined: 09 Mar 2006

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:51 am Post subject:

Missoula, Montana. dmbfan

Ukon

Joined: 29 Jan 2008

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 7:45 am Post subject:

PRagic wrote:

More a set of conditions than an actual specific place:

1) Cost of living lower than Seoul
2) Cost of housing much lower than Seoul
3) Employment opportunities (university or college)
4) Warm year round or with mild, mild winters
5) Proximity to leisure options (water, hiking, biking...)

Taken together, these conditions rule out Hawaii, California and most of the N.E. seaboard. Somewhere in 'The South' might be an option depending on an exact location specifics. Hey, have you ever heard of anyone retiring and moving north?

Mexico

Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:51 am Post subject:

PRagic wrote:

No, never heard of anyone retiring north. I have heard of 'halfways' though. People from the Northeast or the Midwest, they go to Florida and complain about the humidity, and then relocate halfway, generally in somewhere like North Carolina!

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If housing costs and cost-of-living and such were equal across the country, I'd probably only consider Hawaii or California. Having tried living in San Francisco and struggling with the costs of it, it does rule it out.

I have looked extensively at the 'South'...but nowhere really jumps out at me in the total picture of things. Southern Nevada or Southern Florida stand out as very reasonable choices though.

joshuahirtle27

Joined: 23 Mar 2008

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:58 am Post subject:

Ukon wrote:

PRagic wrote:

Mexico

You're from Mexico?

seoulteacher

Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: Seoul

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:10 pm Post subject:

joshuahirtle27 wrote:

Prince Edward Island.

My wife's family is there so babysitting is cheap and they are screaming for teachers so I can sub while I get my degree.

Joshua, how does that work? You'd sub and study nights at PEI U? (Sorry, I'll not google it now to find out your uni's name). I ask because if I could self-support, by subbing say, while doing a (1-year post-grad?) B.Ed, I'd be mighty interested. And especially if, as you say, they're screaming for teachers.

PRagic wrote:

A
Houston, TX and coastal neighborhoods close enough to commute (but only if necessary) meet enough of those conditions to interest me:

- housing: can get a 2-bdrm condo on the water in Seabrook, TX for US $ 60k (and which will probably drop in price), or a 2,000+ sq ft house for US $ 100-150k
- hot weather in summer, mild otherwise
- and near the water (yes, I'm thinking towns like Kemah, Seabrook, or San Leon)

and given their Alternative Certification Program (ACP) possibilities: get a teaching job with any 1st degree at about US $ 38k pa (or US $ 42,000 pa with a masters), then study nights, etc. to get Texas state teacher certification.

One concern for me: as a non-US citizen, it has been possible to get a work visa to teach in the US, but might those visas dry up as general US unemployment rises?

B
Interestingly, I read an article a few years back that said that 50% of retirees to Florida from the US Northeast return home within the 1st year: they miss family and friends and home too muchee (and will I use Konglish 'when I'm 64'? Rolling Eyes

). Maybe its easiest to make such a move when you're young enough to build connections and memories there?

Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:22 pm Post subject:

seoulteacher wrote:

Interestingly, I read an article a few years back that said that 50% of retirees to Florida from the US Northeast return home within the 1st year: they miss family and friends and home too muchee (and will I use Konglish 'when I'm 64'? Rolling Eyes

). Maybe its easiest to make such a move when you're young enough to build connections and memories there?

It kinda makes sense. They probably raised families in the north, have grandkids they want to be around...and there they are stuck in Florida during the very humid summers, grandkids on school vacation, but can't see each other, etc.

I think you'd almost have to raise a family in Florida to make it work, as they'd be nearby. I also do hear a lot of complaints about Florida...but none that would bother me too much. Some people seem to actually miss four seasons, and other people in Southern Florida are overwhelmed by the predominance of Spanish (again, living abroad for years, I think us expats wouldn't have a problem with another language around all the time).

In a lot of ways though, I kinda think the Western U.S. is just a whole lot better all the way around though...I am interested in Florida myself, but any move there, I probably would miss the lack of Asian foods and people, and be West Coast bound in any long-term scenario.

Jati

Joined: 13 Dec 2008

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject:

Tiger Beer, Off-Topic: Just curious. Is 'Tiger Beer' (the brand, not YOU) popular in Japan? Is it seen as an upscale brand, mid-level, or rock-gut bottom-of-the-barrel? I live where Tiger is made and sold as the normal, ordinary, everyday brand. It isn't bad for a tropical lager. Made famous by Anthony Burgess (The Malayan Trilogy: Time for a Tiger). On-Topic: Utah (but I'm not Mormon)

Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:15 pm Post subject:

Jati wrote:

Tiger Beer,

Off-Topic:

Just curious. Is 'Tiger Beer' (the brand, not YOU) popular in Japan? Is it seen as an upscale brand, mid-level, or rock-gut bottom-of-the-barrel?

I live where Tiger is made and sold as the normal, ordinary, everyday brand. It isn't bad for a tropical lager. Made famous by Anthony Burgess (The Malayan Trilogy: Time for a Tiger).

On-Topic:
Utah (but I'm not Mormon)

I seldom if ever see 'Tiger Beer' the beer brand in Japan. Of course the Japanese brands, and foreign brands, maybe Corona and Guinness seem to be available in most places, usually at the same prices as Japanese beer.

joshuahirtle27

Joined: 23 Mar 2008

Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 1:42 am Post subject:

seoulteacher wrote:

joshuahirtle27 wrote:

Prince Edward Island.

My wife's family is there so babysitting is cheap and they are screaming for teachers so I can sub while I get my degree.

Joshua, how does that work? You'd sub and study nights at PEI U? (Sorry, I'll not Google it now to find out your uni's name). I ask because if I could self-support, by subbing say, while doing a (1-year post-grad?) B.Ed, I'd be mighty interested. And especially if, as you say, they're screaming for teachers.

You were close on the name (UPEI) so very good. UPEI has a 2 year B.Ed program. My basic plan is the go to the island, work, sub, and study. My wife will also be able to work so that will make life easier. From what I hear of PEI they are screaming for teachers. The school board has even gone so far as to let people with ECE diplomas teach as long as they have some time under their belt interacting with kids, even in a daycare setting. It's not utopia... but you don't have to learn hangul.

Ninja

Joined: 07 Dec 2008
Location: Secret

Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 2:26 am Post subject:

south Florida. or central Florida

Draz

Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:51 am Post subject:

Edmonton Halifax Vancouver The schools that offer the Master's program I want are there. Maybe in a year or two. Not ready to go back to "work" yet. Man I hate school!

Fishead soup

Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:44 pm Post subject:

Every Social Services office from Newfoundland to Vancouver.

seoulteacher

Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: Seoul

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:06 pm Post subject:

joshuahirtle27 wrote:

Many thanks for sharing that info, Joshua: much appreciated!

And to one and all, espec. those who have shared on these boards:

Sey Hey Bok Mani Pader Seyo!
Happy New Year: all that's good in 2009 to you and yours!

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