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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Why should anyone believe that site? |
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igotthisguitar
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| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Why should anyone believe that site? |
More people agree with straight shooters like Alex Jones than will ever believe even half of what you say 
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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There are lot of people who believe or want to believe the holocaust never happened and / or want others to believe that - like Jeff Rense and Michael Rivero.
And that means? |
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igotthisguitar
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| Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 4:50 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
There are lot of people who believe or want to believe the holocaust never happened and / or want others to believe that - like Jeff Rense and Michael Rivero.
And that means? |
While the holocaust industry is one thing ( there's plenty of Jewish researchers & commentators who disagree with the official PC history line ), it's the PRINCIPLE that should be allowed to reign supreme; whether what anyone has to say about anything is in our eyes "incorrect", empirically false, or what have you.
There's people who believe the earth is flat. Others ( Judeo-Christian fundamentalists ) who believe the earth was created something like 4000 years ago. Some might even believe the moon is made of cheese.
Personally, i of course don't believe any of these theories. However, i fully support an individual's right to espouse them. Never should a "false" belief of any kind be a crime.
Whether they're right or wrong, whether we disagree with them or not, whether what they propose is on the surface utterly absurd or for that matter "common" sense, witch hunting inquisitioners, self-righteous state censors, money grubbing interest groups ( or what have you ) have no place in forcing them to believe otherwise.
Sounds too much like a state sponsored "Thought" Crime campaign straight out of Orwell's ROOM 101.
That's just plain creepy. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 4:54 am Post subject: |
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While the holocaust industry is one thing ( there's plenty of Jewish researchers & commentators who disagree with the official PC history line ), it's the PRINCIPLE that should be allowed to reign supreme; whether what anyone has to say about anything is in our eyes "incorrect", empirically false, or what have you.
There's people who believe the earth is flat. Others ( Judeo-Christian fundamentalists ) who believe the earth was created something like 4000 years ago. Some might even believe the moon is made of cheese.
Personally, i of course don't believe any of these theories. However, i fully support an individual's right to espouse them. Never should a "false" belief of any kind be a crime.
Whether they're right or wrong, whether we disagree with them or not, whether what they propose is on the surface utterly absurd or for that matter "common" sense, witch hunting inquisitioners, self-righteous state censors, money grubbing interest groups ( or what have you ) have no place in forcing them to believe otherwise.
That's just plain creepy. |
Here is my theory Jeff Rense is a hate mongering disinformation artist, so are his supporters.
Jeff Rense supporters ought not to be allowed into the US. |
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igotthisguitar
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| Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:27 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
Here is my theory Jeff Rense is a hate mongering disinformation artist, so are his supporters.
Jeff Rense supporters ought not to be allowed into the US. |
OK, fine. You've got your beliefs.
In support of the principle i just tried to illustrate, even though i largely disagree with your perspective on a number of things, to the point even where i find them downright distasteful, i WILL defend your "RIGHT" to hold & express them 
http://www.infowars.com/video/previews/moe/wm_bb.htm |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:35 am Post subject: |
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| Just as they keep Jeff Rense supporters out of the US. |
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igotthisguitar
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| Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:42 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Just as they keep Jeff Rense supporters out of the US. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| Michael Rivero wants to help the terrorists |
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igotthisguitar
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Michael Rivero wants to help the terrorists |
Who's he ???
Any relation to Geraldo ??? |
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igotthisguitar
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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UK Channel 4 Whitewash London Underground Exercise Story
'Coincidence theorists' say nothing to worry about, go back to sleep
Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet | July 23 2005
A firestorm erupted amongst alternative media after this website first highlighted the inconceivable coincidence of Visor Consultants holding an exercise which centered around bombs exploding in the exact areas and at the same time as happened during the real 7/7 London Underground attack.
However, no mainstream media has reported on this massive story, instead focusing on drills that had taken place months and years before the actual event.
Until now.
British Channel 4 News has produced a special report which whitewashes the entire affair as one big coincidence and attacks this website for even questioning the unusual nature of the concurrent exercises and attacks on 7/7.
Before we offer a rebuttal to the perspective of the report, it's interesting to relate the reaction of Visor managing director Peter Power when he was questioned as to the lack of mainstream media coverage on this issue.
Colman Jones, an Associate Producer on CBS:Sunday Night, met Power at a conference on disaster management in Toronto. As they were leaving the building he enquired of Power 'why there had not been more media coverage of this.' 'They were trying to keep it quiet,' Power purportedly responded, with what Jones called 'a knowing smile.'
Who is trying to keep it quiet? If this is all just hot air as Channel 4 later go on to claim, then why is it being kept secret? Why hasn't Power even revealed the name of the company he was running the drill for?
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Visor's crisis team, Power explained, were planning to practice the switch from what he called 'slow time' thinking to the 'quick time' thinking required by a crisis situation. In the event, they were forced to do so for real. 'Unusual though it may be to stop an exercise and go into real time,' he comments, 'it worked very well - although there were a few seconds when the audience didn't realise whether it was real or not.'
http://www.infowars.com/articles/London_attack/channel_4_whitewash_underground_exercises.htm |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| igotthisguitar wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Michael Rivero wants to help the terrorists |
Who's he ???
Any relation to Geraldo ??? |
This guy wants to help the terrorists too. |
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igotthisguitar
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| Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| This guy wants to help the terrorists too. |
Help which terrorists ??? What IS a terrorist btw ??? Why not share your defintion with us.
Of any particular religion ??? Only a certain colour ??? What of their methods ??? Can a state leader be a terrorist, or once one is voted into office are they able to kill & maim as many people as they like all in the name of "freedom" & "liberty" and ... and ... well ... just fill in the blank. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Help which terrorists ??? |
Al Qaida, some others
Or rather he does not want them to lose cause he wants there to be disorder cause that is the only way he and his followers can gain power.
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| What IS a terrorist btw ??? Why not share your defintion with us. |
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Bathists , Khomenists, those that support Bin Laden, and the similar groups FARC and those who support the Nazis or Klan are all fascist bigots and terrorists.
Hey sounds like Jeff Rense supporters.
Those who fight for what they fight for - AND employ their methods are without a doubt terrorists.
Al Qaida is like the Klan but they are better funded and armed.
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Those who fight for what Al Qaida , Khomeni lovers and Bathists fight for - AND employ their methods are without a doubt terrorists.
What they fight is the bigger consideration.
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or once one is voted into office are they able to kill & maim as many people as they like all in the name of "freedom" & "liberty" and ... and ... well ... just fill in the blank |
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Bathists , Khomenists and those that follow Bin Laden don't have a right to their war.
Let them give up their war. They don't have a right to their war.
They don't have a right to their war. and if they don't want to give up their war then the US is justified in doing anything and everything to force them to.
Michael Rivero and Jeff Rense don't want Al Qaida to lose. |
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igotthisguitar
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Al Qaida is like the Klan but they are better funded and armed. |
Better funded & armed ??? Is that right ??? Hmmmmmm ... ic.
And WHO helped build up Al-Quaida ??? Any western interests ??? I believe the record shows that the CIA (among others ) had an instrumental role in actually creating Al-Quaida. Rather ironic wouldn't you say ???
Problem, reaction, solution.
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Michael Rivero and Jeff Rense don't want Al Qaida to lose. |
While i don't know about Michael Rivero ( whoever he is ) sources that have provided Rense with information, as well as documents & various articles he's read has led him to believe westenr intel. agenies had an active hand in actually building up Al-Quaida.
Build it up ... then, when the time is right, go in ... blow it up & annihilate anyone that dares to challenge your "divine right" ( tends to turd a tidy profit ), then build it all back up again ala say someone like "Halliburton"
Ah yes, don't ya just love the smell of Napalm in the morning ???  |
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