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Hollywoodaction
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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"The neutrality and factual accuracy of this article are disputed."
You sure showed him/her wrong.
(Don't bother explaining to me the reasons why it's disputed...I'm just teasing you.) |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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A Rapier Excloooooosive!!!
Check out these Vids of the Violence in france (flick forward).
http://www.dailymotion.com/search/CRS/video/88913
http://s.tf1.fr/manreo/video/news/lesjt/1729623/wm_large/tf1_ie.htm#
http://www.racismeantiblanc.bizland.com/005/
http://www.racismeantiblanc.bizland.com/silenceselectif/bid68.htm
Islam in France : Did you know �� ?
Did you know that young Muslim girls demand to be exempted from Sports and Biology classes, without being penalized at the exams? (Source: Le Nouvel Observateur)
Did you know that Muslim women require and get special schedules that are exclusively reserved for her in public swimming pools? (Source: Revue Politique)
Did you know that Muslim female students require and get to be escorted by their husband and to be judged by a woman to their exams? (Source: Le Nouvel Observateur)
Did you know that a Muslim association (��Unir�� at the Paris XIII university) question the right for ��western culture�� professor to judge the work of a Muslim student? (Source: l��Express)
Did you know that Muslims demand and obtain the suppression of the Christmas celebration in schools?
Did you know that Muslims, abusing of the laic public schools, demand and obtain the removal of Christmas trees? (Source: Le Parisien)
Did you know that Muslims demand and obtain the prohibition of pork and of non hallal (preparation of food according to Islamic law) meat in the French schools where they are in majority?
Did you know that in the government administration, Muslims demand additional days off for their Islamic celebrations?
Did you know that Muslims demand praying rooms in our schools, high schools and universities?
Did you know that Muslims demand arranged schedules for their 5 daily prayers to schools, high schools, universities and companies?
Did you know that Muslims demand a revision of our history books to integrate the history of their country and religion? (Source: Le Nouvel Observateur)
Did you know that in order not to ��irritate�� Muslims, all references to Charles Martel, Jeanne D��Arc and many mores�� will be removed from our scholar books?
Did you know that Muslims females require their Islamic veils to work in public jobs (government administration, hospitals, schools��)?
Did you know that Muslim female students in medicine require to work only with female patients? (Source: Le Monde, Le Figaro)
Did you know that doctors were violently beaten because they had healed women without the assent of their Muslim husbands? (Source: Le Monde, Le Figaro)
Did you know that many French high schools with a North African majority have ��Death to the Jews��, ��Death to the Christians�� and ��Support Ben Laden�� inscriptions on their walls?
Did you know that most of far left and Muslim associations claiming themselves as ��anti racists�� (www.oumma.com) militate for the disappearing if Israel and of the Jews?
Did you know that during the manifestation against the war in Iraq, some ��pacifists�� and ��anti�� racists Muslim were exhibiting portraits of Ben Laden or Saddam Hussein? (Source: Les 4 Vérités)
Did you know that a savage named Djamel who burnd a young girl alive, Sohane, was acclaimed in his Val de Marne ��cit� (Muslim suburbs) when he came for the fact reconstitution? (Source: France 3)
Did you know that the young blacks and Muslims who burned a white supermarket vigil alive (in 2002 at Nantes) feels no remorse and are proud of themselves? (Source: the lawyer)
Did you know that a ��book of good behavior��: ��The licit and illicit in Islam��, sold in France for more than 10 years, explains how a good Muslim have to beat his wife: ��with hands��, ��with neither a whip nor a piece of wood��, ��and avoiding her face��? (Source: l��Express)
Did you know that in Belgium, Islamic militias patrol in the streets to ��control the bad and racists white cops�� and to apply their own rules? (Source: Libération)
Did you know that new laws will force the Police, the Army, and general public jobs to hire with priority people coming from immigration, and that 35 companies (France TV, Peugeot, Casino) have signed a foreign preference contract for staff recruitment? (Source: Government)
Did you know that in high schools, Muslims students put on their coat before going to the blackboard ��in order not to cause any covetousness��, that in schools Muslim fathers refuse to leave their daughters in a class with a male teachers, and that a school had to organize a SAS without windows to recognize the mothers, veiled from their foot to their head, before returning them their Children? (Source: Le Monde)
Did you know that in schools some students instituted the separate usage of 2 taps in the toilettes, one reserved for the ��Muslims��, the other to the ��French��, or that a local responsible of the Muslim cult demanded separate cloakrooms because ��a circumcised can not undress next to an impur��? (Source: Le Monde)
Did you know that to the question ��in case of a conflict would you defend the nation?��, of 10 people coming from immigration 7 answered no, 2 were laughing, and just 1 is willing to fight for France? (Source: Le Point)
http://en.france-echos.com/?p=12 |
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rapier
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Hollywoodaction
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:56 am Post subject: |
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France, as a coherent and functioning state, is soon to be gone.
Next in line is likely Sweden.
These governments can accomplish nothing positive. They have let in far too many crazy muslims who resent European culture/people and are waging a quiet war against them. So-called "academics" have been allowed to dominate the public discourse for far too long, and this has been done by a fascist adherence to political correctness, where simply disagreeing with an 'intellectual' constitutes racism.
At bottom, the problem is anti-capitalism. And the solution is capitalism.
The state should protect persons and private property and help enforce laws (if it has any legitimate function at all). In Europe, and also in my home of Canada, the role of the state is to carve the population into groups (affectionately called "communities" by the PC Nazis) and then steal from groups determined to be privileged in order to give to groups determined (again, by the academics and their pathetic lapdogs, the bureaucrats) to be "underprivileged". Of course, this causes resentment within groups loosing towards groups gaining and inspires a culture of theft in the groups who are gaining that helps further perpetuate the cycle.
The VAST majority of actions every government takes is done in protection of one group at the expense of the others. Take the CAP, where farmers are lavished with subsidies ---because of anti-capitalism--- at the expense of farmers from poor countries and the citizens of europe who pay higher taxes to pay the farmers, only to have to pay higher prices for food that is of lower quality. But most citizens of Europe support the CAP because it "protects culture". More PC bullsh$t. Government destroys culture, never preserves.
All the social-democracies will implode and fail. And the most ironic thing is that when they do, the "intellectuals" will convince the idiotic, state-educated populations that capitalism was at fault. |
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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:25 am Post subject: |
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Here are a bunch of statistics from 2005 of incidents not related in anyway to the huge national protest sweeping France in March 2006. |
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Er WTF has that got to do with this current protest which is supported by the majority of WHITE French people? This has nothing to do with the point I was making to Butterfly. |
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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 2:19 am Post subject: |
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A Rapier Excloooooosive!!!
Did you know that Muslim women require and get special schedules that are exclusively reserved for her in public swimming pools? (Source: Revue Politique) |
I can't see the problem with this. I would love a female only swimming session. Many other non-muslim women would be very comfortable with this.
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Did you know that Muslims demand and obtain the suppression of the Christmas celebration in schools? |
My friends who went to jewish schools report the same thing.
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Did you know that Muslims, abusing of the laic public schools, demand and obtain the removal of Christmas trees? (Source: Le Parisien) |
White Australian athiests have demanded the same. Note: many muslims living in North Africa absolutely love Christmas trees in their homes. They use 'New Year' as their excuse to put them up.
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Did you know that Muslims demand and obtain the prohibition of pork and of non hallal (preparation of food according to Islamic law) meat in the French schools where they are in majority? |
And does this seriously harm the non-muslims who can no longer eat piggie for lunch? They still get to eat plenty of lamb chicken and beef.
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Did you know that in the government administration, Muslims demand additional days off for their Islamic celebrations? |
Like those bloody waygooks who get themselves in a terrible tizzy when they're required to work on Xmas day in Korea?
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Did you know that Muslims demand praying rooms in our schools, high schools and universities? |
Did you know that jews long ago demanded (and were granted) the right to skip morning assembly in British schools because the assembly was too Christian orientated. The country didn't come to a stand still.
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Did you know that Muslims demand arranged schedules for their 5 daily prayers to schools, high schools, universities and companies? |
Prayers take 5 minutes. The first takes place when the sun rises (presumably most people haven't gone to work/school by then). The last 2 prayers take place after sun down (most will probably have left work/school by then). One takes place in the lunch break (no extra time required here). So that's 1 short break in the middle of the afternoon then. I doubt the country will come to a stand still.
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Did you know that Muslims demand a revision of our history books to integrate the history of their country and religion? (Source: Le Nouvel Observateur) |
Well since France has played no small part in the recent history of North Africa - it wouldn't be such an outlandish request.
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Did you know that in order not to ��irritate�� Muslims, all references to Charles Martel, Jeanne D��Arc and many mores�� will be removed from our scholar books? |
I imagine this would "irritate" only a minority of muslims. Giving in to this request is just silly - are you sure they are really going to do this?
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Did you know that Muslims females require their Islamic veils to work in public jobs (government administration, hospitals, schools��)? |
I don't know why this bothers anybody. There are hundreds of women wearing the hijab at my university. It doesn't bother me. I have made friends with quite a few of them, and guess what!? They seem like normal human beings!!!
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Did you know that Muslim female students in medicine require to work only with female patients? (Source: Le Monde, Le Figaro) |
Whenever possible, I request female doctors.
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Did you know that doctors were violently beaten because they had healed women without the assent of their Muslim husbands? (Source: Le Monde, Le Figaro) |
These men should be up for assualt just as any other jealous men in our societies who routinely beat up other men they feel threatened by. I know many muslim men who had no problems with their wives being treated by male doctors.
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Did you know that many French high schools with a North African majority have ��Death to the Jews��, ��Death to the Christians�� and ��Support Ben Laden�� inscriptions on their walls? |
Hmmm. At my old school there was "White Power" "British Bulldogs" "Hitler was right!" and other stuff inscribed on the walls.
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Did you know that most of far left and Muslim associations claiming themselves as ��anti racists�� (www.oumma.com) militate for the disappearing if Israel and of the Jews? |
I'm really not surprised. Afterall, 1 quarter of the world's refugee population are displaced palestinians. However, I've discussed this situation with plenty of educated arabs (and palestinians) over the years, and surprising quite a few are resigned to Israel remaining. They just wish that Israel would recognise the injustice of the creation of Israel and agree to returning to the Green line. They seem on a par with who aborigines don't demand the removal of white Australians, they just wish they'd properly recognised the awful injustices inflicted on them, and negotiate better agreements RE land rights. If I was a palestinian I would be mad as hell, and a lot more resentful than some of these guys.
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Did you know that during the manifestation against the war in Iraq, some ��pacifists�� and ��anti�� racists Muslim were exhibiting portraits of Ben Laden or Saddam Hussein? (Source: Les 4 Vérités) |
Sounds like some of my Korean students.
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Did you know that a savage named Djamel who burnd a young girl alive, Sohane, was acclaimed in his Val de Marne ��cit� (Muslim suburbs) when he came for the fact reconstitution? (Source: France 3) |
There would have been many more in his suburb who were absolutely appalled by what he'd done. Come on.
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Did you know that the young blacks and Muslims who burned a white supermarket vigil alive (in 2002 at Nantes) feels no remorse and are proud of themselves? (Source: the lawyer) |
YOu'll find many white supremists who take the same view of their own crimes. Are all of us whiteys vicious unfeeling psychopaths? You'll find vile criminals in any group or population.
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Did you know that a ��book of good behavior��: ��The licit and illicit in Islam��, sold in France for more than 10 years, explains how a good Muslim have to beat his wife: ��with hands��, ��with neither a whip nor a piece of wood��, ��and avoiding her face��? (Source: l��Express) |
Was the book explicitly about domestic violence, or was this just one aspect of the book. I would probably have bought the book too if its contents were so controversial! I'm sure that only a minority of muslim men of our generateion really believe this to be acceptable. Among us whiteys there are many men who find it quite acceptable to knock their bird about - just ask Sean Connery.
Well, I'm bored of responding now - but my point is it is only a minority of muslims that are so fanatical about these things. For the past 15 years I've hung out with scores of muslims, and most of them are quite normal and very westernised. They're exasperated by the antics of some of their muslim brethren, and they don't want to change the societies they live in. They're happy just to practice their religion in peace. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 2:52 am Post subject: |
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Er WTF has that got to do with this current protest which is supported by the majority of WHITE French people? This has nothing to do with the point I was making to Butterfly. |
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-Because mass gatherings to protest the Labor laws are simply convenient opportunities for muslim youths to pursue their real agenda of attacking whites.
After French Youths Bring Protest to Park, Thugs Pound Them
Sadly, when the French youth protesters ended their successful march on Thursday at Invalides Square they did not understand that the hundreds of thugs waiting there for them were not sympathetic to the cause.
Armed only with their signs and socialist banners, the job seekers were faced with a new struggle. The local thugs beat them silly and took their cellphones.
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/03/after-french-youths-bring-protest-to.html
French Students Rally for Jobs, Muslim Thugs Rally for Cellphones
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/03/french-students-rally-for-jobs-french.html
In this report on the ongoing socialist tantrums in France, we learn that ��youths�� from the suburbs are preying on the demonstrators.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=19825&only
Not everyone at the French protests this week was looking for a secure job.
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/03/would-you-let-your-daughter-go-to.html
Plenty of pictures here of the thugs you are supporting/making excuses for:
http://en.france-echos.com/
and here (scroll down.
http://no-pasaran.blogspot.com/
Big Bird: you are supporting violent thugs who have burned churches, raped defenceless women, even set fire to a disabled woman in a wheelchair, all the time chanting Allahu Akhbar. People who are continuing the violence until they become the muslim majority- which is not far off. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:01 am Post subject: |
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Muslims riot against French
On March 8, tens of thousands of high school students marched through central Paris to protest education reforms announced by the government. Repeatedly, peaceful demonstrators were attacked by bands of black and Arab youths—about 1,000 in all, according to police estimates. The eyewitness accounts of victims, teachers, and most interestingly the attackers themselves gathered by the left-wing daily Le Monde confirm the motivation: racism.
http://www.waronjihad.org/france070405.html
The attackers openly expressed their hatred of ��little French people.�� One 18-year-old named Heikel, a dual citizen of France and Tunisia, was proud of his actions. He explained that he had joined in just to ��beat people up,�� especially ��little Frenchmen who look like victims.�� He added with a satisfied smile that he had ��a pleasant memory�� of repeatedly kicking a student, already defenseless on the ground.
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The attackers openly expressed their hatred of ��little French people.�� One 18-year-old named Heikel, a dual citizen of France and Tunisia, was proud of his actions. He explained that he had joined in just to ��beat people up,�� especially ��little Frenchmen who look like victims.�� He added with a satisfied smile that he had ��a pleasant memory�� of repeatedly kicking a student, already defenseless on the ground.
Another attacker explained the violence by saying that ��little whites�� don��t know how to fight and ��are afraid because they are cowards.�� Rachid, an Arab attacker, added that even an Arab can be considered a ��little white�� if he ��has a French mindset.�� The general sentiment was a desire to ��take revenge on whites.��
Sometimes petty theft appeared to be the initial motivation. One or two bullies would approach a student and ask for money or a cell phone. Even if the victim complied right away, they would start beating him or her. A striking account was provided by Luc Colpart, a history and geography teacher and member of the far-left union SUD. Colpart said the scenes of violence were so disturbing that he could not sleep for days. He saw students being beaten or pulled by the hair. He stressed that assailants who stole cell phones smashed them in front of their victims: ��It was a game. Hatred and fun.��
We��ve seen a few very sketchy accounts of last month��s race riots in Paris, but mainstream media has for the most part ignored this disturbing story.
A bit like you Big bird~ just ignore it all, head back in the sand~
sweet dreams~ Let us know when you wake up. |
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On the other hand
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:17 am Post subject: |
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delete, double post
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On the other hand
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:18 am Post subject: |
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Big Bird wrote:
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rapier wrote:
A Rapier Excloooooosive!!!
Did you know that Muslim women require and get special schedules that are exclusively reserved for her in public swimming pools? (Source: Revue Politique)
I can't see the problem with this. I would love a female only swimming session. Many other non-muslim women would be very comfortable with this. |
Well, if there is all this non-Muslim sentiment in favour of segregated swimming, why wasn't it instituted before? We've had segregated washrooms and change rooms since long before I was born, but I have never heard of segregated swimming being requested by anyone other than Muslims, at least not in Canada.
And I think that if a group of non-religious women did approach a pool somewhere to demand a segregated swim session, they'd be told in no uncertain terms that that violates the anti-discrimination laws.
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On the other hand
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:23 am Post subject: |
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Big Bird wrote:
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Did you know that Muslim female students in medicine require to work only with female patients? (Source: Le Monde, Le Figaro)
Whenever possible, I request female doctors.
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Which is your right as a patient. However, in most places for a doctor to choose patients on the basis of sex is considered a clear case of discrimination.
(I should say I'm always a bit skeptical when reading Rapier's sources. But IF it is true that female medical students are requesting to have only female patients, I don't think it can be defended simply by saying that patients have the same right when choosing doctors). |
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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:44 am Post subject: |
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On the other hand wrote: |
Big Bird wrote:
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rapier wrote:
A Rapier Excloooooosive!!!
Did you know that Muslim women require and get special schedules that are exclusively reserved for her in public swimming pools? (Source: Revue Politique)
I can't see the problem with this. I would love a female only swimming session. Many other non-muslim women would be very comfortable with this. |
Well, if there is all this non-Muslim sentiment in favour of segregated swimming, why wasn't it instituted before? We've had segregated washrooms and change rooms since long before I was born, but I have never heard of segregated swimming being requested by anyone other than Muslims, at least not in Canada.
And I think that if a group of non-religious women did approach a pool somewhere to demand a segregated swim session, they'd be told in no uncertain terms that that violates the anti-discrimination laws. |
Well I don't live in Canada so I don't know about any of your laws. Yawn.
However, in the various countries that I've lived in I have happened to spot fitness classes that were intended for women only, and I do recall seeing things like "ladies morning" on the timetables of certain places, including a swimming pool. Just a quick glance at Dave's gives you a clue how much men are obsessed with sizing up women and their physical attributes. Would it be any surprise to you if your mother, daughter, sister, girlfriend was uncomfortable with this - and wanted some privacy away from prying male eyes? As a teenager I found this very difficult to deal with - I had a slim figure with a big bust and men would stare and stare (one was so busy ogling he crashed his bike into a lamp post) and make remarks like "cor blimey - look at the jugs on that!" which I found extremely embarrassing. Into my twenties I could give as good as I got - but it still was bloody annoying. I think it's very normal for woman to want some 'female only' time in certain situations. Why does this threaten you? |
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Big_Bird

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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:47 am Post subject: |
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However, in most places for a doctor to choose patients on the basis of sex is considered a clear case of discrimination.
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I hardly think there will be a clear case of sex discrimination in a gynaecological ward. Problem solved. |
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On the other hand
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Well I don't live in Canada so I don't know about any of your laws. Yawn.
However, in the various countries that I've lived in I have happened to spot fitness classes that were intended for women only, and I do recall seeing things like "ladies morning" on the timetables of certain places, including a swimming pool. Just a quick glance at Dave's gives you a clue how much men are obsessed with sizing up women and their physical attributes. Would it be any surprise to you if your mother, daughter, sister, girlfriend was uncomfortable with this - and wanted some privacy away from prying male eyes? As a teenager I found this very difficult to deal with - I had a slim figure with a big bust and men would stare and stare (one was so busy ogling he crashed his bike into a lamp post) and make remarks like "cor blimey - look at the jugs on that!" which I found extremely embarrassing. Into my twenties I could give as good as I got - but it still was bloody annoying. I think it's very normal for woman to want some 'female only' time in certain situations. Why does this threaten you? |
It doesn't threaten me, at least not in the sense of "oh now I can't get to ogle all the women at the pool", as you seem to be implying. All I was saying is that I was unaware of segregated swimming being a common practice, and it would be somewhat problematic to institute it simply on religious grounds.
If I was wrong, and segregated swimming is an accpeted practice in some places, then by all means Muslim women can avail themselves of that service like anyone else. |
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