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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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 Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| On The Other Hand, very true. Thier handling of foriegn policy has been a disaster, they remind me of the Bush Admin like that, they let international events spiral out of their control, NK, Dokdo, FTA's, The Doha round, etc etc. We were discussing Dokdo and that is Roh's biggest mistake. Me and my boyfriend both agree that instead of trying to prove that Dokdo is theirs and engage the Japenese and inflame the wingnut korean crazies who are stabbing themselves, etc he should just say, Korea occupies the island with soldiers and they are never leaving. No matter what you guys do or say we are never leaving and we will defend it with force. Period. Instead the gov't bungled it and turned it into a big ordeal. Just stay strong and don't engage the lunatic fringe in korea or in Japan. |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Jinju, you don't like communists but you want the government to regulate the housing market? Condradiction my man. The Uri's school bill might not be perfect but at least it was a move in the right direction to try and at least shutdown some of these sham schools. They're social welfare programs are helping to pull this country (albeit kicking and screaming) into the 20th century where people in the west got benefits and protections. They acknowledge that there is a growing divide between the rich and poor and that they should deal with it because if unchecked it could divide the country again. They apologized for the Jeju massacre, a huge move for Korea where their past is routinly denied rather than dealing with it. I wonder if Park were elected would she apologoze for any of the skeletons in her old man's closet? |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Jinju, you don't like communists but you want the government to regulate the housing market? |
Never said I did. The housing market is just one area where Uri have failed spectacularly. Their expressed goal was to reign it in, yet it got out of their control. What it is is just another example of Uri not having a clue as to what they are doing.
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| They acknowledge that there is a growing divide between the rich and poor and that they should deal with it because if unchecked it could divide the country again. |
They are what communists are. They want to take from the rich, and take a bit less from the poor. They are not about anything else but ushering in a socialist utopia based on the marxism they so admire. The leader of Uri is an admirer of KJI and stalinism. And thats what stalinists do. This harping on about some divide is a smokescreen. What they want is a marxist society ready for inclusion into the DPRK. Dont be fooled. The Uri party is about nothing but that. Its not quite as evident in their domestic policy, but it is so obvious in their foreign policy. And if you and your boyfriend think their foreign and domestic polices are not designed to achieve a certain goal, you are blind.
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| They apologized for the Jeju massacre, a huge move for Korea where their past is routinly denied rather than dealing with it. I wonder if Park were elected would she apologoze for any of the skeletons in her old man's closet? |
Punishing communists isnt something to apologize for. |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| What they want is a marxist society ready for inclusion into the DPRK. Dont be fooled. The Uri party is about nothing but that. |
You've now been put into my "raving lunatic box". Hencewith, nothing you say about politics will be taken seriously again. |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Dude are you like Marty McFly? Did you just arrive in the Delorean from 1955? Communism? Is that your biggest concern? Or is your last name McCarthy? Welcome to 2006! Keep fighting the Reds, im sure you'll win! |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| What they want is a marxist society ready for inclusion into the DPRK. Dont be fooled. The Uri party is about nothing but that. |
You've now been put into my "raving lunatic box". Hencewith, nothing you say about politics will be taken seriously again. |
So the unconditional support of North Korea against their closest ally of 60 years is what according to you?
Who do you think Chung Dong-young is?
He is a very dangerous man
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Unification Minister Chung Dong-young declared Tuesday that Seoul will stop allowing large groups of North Korean defectors to enter South Korea, saying that government has no desire to undermine the communist country�s leadership.
�The North�s perception that we are trying to shake the Pyongyang regime by bringing defectors to Seoul is quite different from our policy,� Chung said during an MBC radio interview. �We disapprove of the mass defections. There will be no more large-scale arrivals of defectors in Seoul.� |
What would he do were he president? Send defectors back to North Korea? I wouldnt put it past the guy.
Also, a man who thinks counterfeiting is up for negotiations:
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Unification Minister Chung Dong-young said Monday, �Non-nuclear complaints by the United States against North Korea should be solved by bilateral talks between the two parties. As the six-party talks focus on resolving the nuclear issue, other matters should be kept separate from the six-party issue.�
Chung told a forum during a breakfast hour lecture at the Lotte Hotel in Seoul, �Major non-nuclear complaints fall into six categories, the most important of which is the North�s missile program, others include biochemical and conventional weapons and human rights abuses, as well as its alleged involvement in drug trafficking and currency counterfeiting.� |
Uri Leader jr with urli leader Sr.
Hey, dont criticize the North!
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| A planned musical about human rights abuses in North Korea�s Yoduk concentration camp has run into massive obstacles, not least from officials fearful of upsetting the Stalinist country. South Korean government agencies are demanding changes to the story, which they say dwells too heavily on the negative aspects of the camp [!], according to producers. Officials also allegedly invoked the National Security Law to warn producers against showing a portrait of former leader Kim Il-sung and the singing of North Korean songs in the show |
North Korean threat? They have 1.1 million armd soldiers at the DMZ? Oh well...
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| Former unification minister and Uri Party chairman contender Chung Dong-young said at a press conference yesterday that if the strength of the army was reduced to 300,000, about half its current size, before the year 2015, the financial resources to settle the social and economic divide could be raised. |
The North is building nukes and thratening to destroy the South? Oh well, lets give the money. EVEN if that projct is an AIRFIELD. Yeah, reduce forces in the south, build airfields in the North. hmmmm I smell an agenda, do you?
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| The Unification Ministry is again facing criticism over its laxness toward North Korea, after announcing yesterday it would provide 4.8 billion won ($4.8 million) to repair and complete a project on Mount Paektu on which it has already spent 4.98 billion won. Of that, 2 billion won is to repair faulty construction by North Korean workers, carried out without clear specifications of what the South expected for its contribution. |
if you are old, dont bother voting. Democracy is REALLY just for the young..and also if you are conservative, dont vote, democracy is really for the communists
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The head of a party on which South Korea's impeached president has pinned his political fortunes apologized Friday for telling older voters to "stay home and rest" and let the young decide this month's parliamentary elections.
Chung Dong-young's remark, widely reported by domestic media and criticized by the conservative opposition, angered elderly voters in this deeply Confucian society that cherishes seniority. |
Not so fast there, sonny. maybe we can illegally enroll some old farts into Uri party, eh?
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| The police raided the Seoul city chapter office of the governing Uri Party yesterday, an action that was a first in this country and would have been unthinkable under Korea�s strongman presidents. The police were following up on complaints that the party may have enrolled about 100 elderly people ― and collected party dues from them ― without their knowledge. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Octavius Hite wrote: |
| Dude are you like Marty McFly? Did you just arrive in the Delorean from 1955? Communism? Is that your biggest concern? Or is your last name McCarthy? Welcome to 2006! Keep fighting the Reds, im sure you'll win! |
Ah, so you really see no threat from the COMMUNIST North? You mean all those guys with guns are there for fun, right? I mean the North couldnt possibly have its 5th columnists in South Korea, right? is your boyfriend part of the Hanchongryeon?
You know, when the DPRK threatens a delluge of fire if your party loses elections then you must be doing something right to appease them. But you WILL lose the elections. |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| The fact that the south wants to work towards re unification doesn't in anyway make them communist. I'm quite sure they don't envision a communist model under unification. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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| The fact that the south wants to work towards re unification doesn't in anyway make them communist. I'm quite sure they don't envision a communist model under unification. |
The current regime isnt about reunification per se. They are more about handing the country over to the North. You have to be blind not to see it. Unconditional support which is really turning into defeinding the North's every damn crime even when the evidence is there that they are guilty. The South doesnt challenge the North on ANYTHING. Not drug smuggling, not abductions, not the nuclear issue, not on counterfeiting. NOTHING. And when the DPRK does launch the missile you will see that the South wont even condemn them for that. There is NOTHING the North could do to get the South to condemn them for. Not a single thing, short of actual war and then Im not sure you would see this government even put up a defense. Its funny that this party is buildong airfields in the North (why does the North need airfields anyway, not like people fly there nless its Chung, Roh or that former president who bought a nobel for himself with Samsung's money) and their current leader is planning to castrate his own country's defense forces. Seriously, are you blind as to what the hell is going on? because the North isnt. Thats why they threatened the South with a delluge of fire if the GNP wins the elections on May 31
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| On the 16th, through its website called �Among our ethnic people�, the Committee for the Peaceful Reunification of the Fatherland of the United Front Department in the (North) Korea Workers' Party claimed that, �If the citizens of Seoul vote for the Grand National Party, all the people on the peninsula would undergo the ravage of war,� in a review entitled, �There is an expectation for the citizens of Seoul to make a responsible choice.� |
yes. We expect you southerners to make the right choice. Vote for the party that gives us everything we want whenever we want and never challenges us on anything. If you dont, we will unleash a delluge of fire upon you all. Now vote and give us money/rice/fertilizers and a big kiss on our ass. |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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| LOL, ur right, i have my plan all setup, Im going to steal a car when I hear the horns and then I'm heading for Busan. There i'll catch the ferry to japan and on to my homeland. Guy, the north will never attack because China won't let them for fear of destroying all their development. You're going to give yourself an ulcer, chillout. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| LOL, ur right, i have my plan all setup, Im going to steal a car when I hear the horns and then I'm heading for Busan. There i'll catch the ferry to japan and on to my homeland. Guy, the north will never attack because China won't let them for fear of destroying all their development. You're going to give yourself an ulcer, chillout. |
The North doesnt need to attack when the South is doing such a good job of bending over. But its about to come to an end when the GNP takes control of power within the next 3 years. |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Keep drinking the kool-aid, it helps the ulcers! |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Keep drinking the kool-aid, it helps the ulcers! |
Keep cohorting with your commie boyfriend. has he knocked any older ladies to the ground yet? |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| I prefer we be refered to as Pinko Commies. Man I feel like I'm in a senate hearing in the 1950's. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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In the battle royale of trolls that this thread has become, Jinju shows us that there is no subject in existence in which he won't flaunt his ignorance, while the good doctor is simply one more incarnation in a long line of one trick ponies.
Verdict:
Jinju, hands down! |
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