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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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 Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Octavius Hite wrote: |
(1) , don't make your hatred of taxes make you a racist.
And just because there are a few crooked chiefs does not justify so much hate I see on this board (2) (although now I know why many of you are here and not there). |
1. I have already asked you to stop making racist remarks. Don't try and turn it around on us.
2. Guess we know why YOU are here. |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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Racist remarks??? Are you kidding me, please point out racist remark I said. Here are some examples though:
Apple Scruff wrote:
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| How the whole system came into being is neither here nor there. The fact is that they don't pay taxes. The rest of us do. That's a pretty good head-start in getting their *beep* together, in my book. |
Not true, many, if not most pay taxes. This statement was clearly designed to get all the tax people go crazy
Mr. Pink wrote:
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No taxes
Free housing
Gov't allowances
Free tuition
With a university degree, able to get a job in ANY gov't ministry or fortune 500 company
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| If Native Americans want dignity, I agree with the earlier poster: CLEAN UP YOUR COMMUNITIES. You have to have self esteem and respect yourself before other's will. |
Again full of half truths and self-respect. Plenty of my Aboriginal aquantancies have self-respect its rarified political hacks who run the Indian Affairs Ministry who usually work on destroying it, residential school anyone????
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
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| Anyway it's not that life on a reserve is great. It's the ADVANTAGES natives get which are great. No taxes free housing, free education, government allowances....Heck if I had half of those I could have started my own business back in Canada and made a mint. |
So you acknowledge my point that the benefits of living on a reserve are what? Great or terrible? Tax free but a nightmare?
And yes I know that there are more than a few reserves which have done well and cleaned up and turned things around, but for every one of those I can show you 3 that are living hell in Northern Ontario or Quebec or Labrador.
Apple Scruff wrote:
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No one in their right mind wants to go live on a reserve. They're dirty, depressing and riddled with drug use and crime. And the whole point I've been trying to get across is that the reserves DON'T HAVE TO BE THAT WAY. They get assloads of financial help from their cruel, "disrespectful" government, and they don't do squat with it. They piss away our tax dollars on I-don't-know-what, but if I were to wager a guess, I'd say I could find the answer somewhere around their Chief's mansions and luxury SUVs.
Stop being such a PC *beep* and accept the fact that some people create their own problems. The government and the white man can only do so much evil at a time, you know |
Clearly thats a well balanced and sensible analysis.
Wrench wrote:
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| After living with Natives for a good portion of 5 years (I had natives part of my family). They are the laziest bunch of mofos on earth they deserve to be where they are. Fack them Dead beat drunken social problem that they are |
Well this guy did once threaten to kill me over gun laws so im not really surprised but this seems to be racist.
I will make one concession however, and be prepared becuase I don't do it often, I was interchanging land claims and treaties and thats not what I intended to do. Land claims are a result of the treaties and the claims (some of which are valid and others that are not) stem from the way the shady government has dealt with many of these people. Signing treaties and then breaking them or tricking them or encouraging corruption at the band level to swindle the many for the enrichment of the few. Those on this board who often lament the US's behaviour in Latin America should see some similar parallels here. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:58 am Post subject: |
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| Octavius Hite wrote: |
you would wish to be Aboriginal in Canada. You would go live on a northern reserve and not finish high school because you were huffing gas, you would enjoy tax free and mortgage free living in a house on reserve with 15 of your closest family members, you would would go out and get drunk and then have the Regina police department leave iyou in the -40 night without a jacket. You would have your children attend residential school.
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This is the racist remark I was talking about. It is a nasty stereotype of the Aboriginal held by many in Canada. Basically it comes off as saying that is what all (or the vast majority of Aboriginals) do and that is not true at all.
However since you have now admitted that there are reserves who are making good headway we can at least agree on that. |
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Apple Scruff
Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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| I give up. |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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No one denied there being reserves.
I dunno about all cities, but my hometown has these new things: Urban reserves.
An urban reserve can be a parking lot, or a larger piece.
My father does business selling restaurant supplies, and he often goes there because on that lot, there is no tax.
Urban reserves are the new way to live native life while still being in the city. |
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