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New Age .. is it crap?
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New age is it crap?
yes
66%
 66%  [ 22 ]
no
33%
 33%  [ 11 ]
Total Votes : 33

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mole



Joined: 06 Feb 2003
Location: Act III

PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does being on Xanax and sitting cross-legged while posting on Dave's qualify as New Age?
I voted NO.
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA

PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted no - although a lot of crap does get labeled "New Age"... I don't agree that the Hare Krishnas are really "new age" since they represent the transplanting of Vedic culture that took root in America, followed by other western countries - and even India...

Most of the Eastern mystic stuff identified with New Age is impersonalist or voidest Hindu or Buddhist ideas and rituals...The Hare Krishnas are followers of ancient Vedic culture's personalist, monotheistic tradition. Some second and third generation Krishna devotees are visible on the music scene, but they are usually classified under "punk" or "straight edge" (or whatever the current label is ...) categories - not New Age...
For those who may have missed it here's that video link to Hare Krishnas marching at last year's National Independence Day parade in D.C. (and a clip from one of their "punk" bands, "Ghost Brothers"...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1762243072653576987


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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rteacher wrote:
I voted no - although a lot of crap does get labeled "New Age"... I don't agree that the Hare Krishnas are really "new age" since they represent the transplanting of Vedic culture that took root in America, followed by other western countries - and even India...

Most of the Eastern mystic stuff identified with New Age is impersonalist or voidest Hindu or Buddhist ideas and rituals...The Hare Krishnas are followers of ancient Vedic culture's personalist, monotheistic tradition. Some second and third generation Krishna devotees are visible on the music scene, but they are usually classified under "punk" or "straight edge" (or whatever the current label is ...) categories - not New Age...
For those who may have missed it here's that video link to Hare Krishnas marching at last year's National Independence Day parade in D.C. (and a clip from one of their "punk" bands, "Ghost"...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1762243072653576987


Trust me, no one has missed that video RTeacher Wink You made sure of that... Laughing
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA

PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I'm guilty of overkill, eh? Embarassed Back when I was younger I helped organized the free vegetarian feast given out to over 10,000 people (and it was a lot more elaborate when I and other stalwart devotee cooks were involved - we had at least five courses...) Uh, here's the "Ghost Brothers" link:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6582333652241228372&auto=true
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rteacher wrote:
I guess I'm guilty of overkill, eh? Embarassed Back when I was younger I helped organized the free vegetarian feast given out to over 10,000 people (and it was a lot more elaborate when I and other stalwart devotee cooks were involved - we had at least five courses...) Uh, here's the "Ghost Brothers" link:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6582333652241228372&auto=true


How much did that cost? And where did you do it? It might be in that article, but the kids are already coming in...
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just had to do it

http://www.petsorfood.com/
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Jeju Rocks



Joined: 23 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer new age to old age, but who gives a rat's ass?
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I spent some time based out of the Hare Krishna temple in Potomac, Maryland, and they used to spend a lot of money on their own "Rath" cart festival at the National Mall - over $30,000. They saved a lot of money by running it concurrent with the Independence Day Parade. Although it still cost thousands to give out the free feast, we also got permits to sell some Indian savories, sweets and nectar drinks to the big Fourth of July crowds so we recouped some of the money back. By the late 80s most of the money for big festivals came from devotees selling Korean oil paintings (rather than getting donations for books...) I think that nowadays festivals are mainly sponsored by Indian congregation members...

I was in D.C. for the huge BiCentennial celebrations in 1976 (I think the Beach Boys headlined the entertainment...) I was also there in 1983 when the Republican Secretary of the Interior, James Watt, shunned the Beach Boys in favor of Wayne Newton, and street venders made a killing selling "I Survived Wayne Newton at the D.C. Fourth of July Celebration" T-Shirts....For a time I distributed Hare Krishna books around the momuments and Smithsonian museums - and even in front of the White House gate where people exited from the tour. Once a White House police tried to stop me, but since I had a proper permit, I boldly went to another White House gate, rang the doorbell, lodged my complaint against the cop - and, within a couple minutes, I got an official White House apology...

Unfortunately, those days are long gone - they've even shut down Pennsylvannia Ave. altogether near the White House to guard against car bombs...
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Corporal



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, it certainly is bunk.
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Bronski



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mostly yes, but not any more than Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Zoroastriasm, etc.

Yoga, however, just sounds like good excercise.


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Merlyn



Joined: 08 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep.
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA

PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yeah?...
http://www.newageinfo.com/new-age-movement.htm
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New Age is a term like a shopping mall encloses various outlets. At its worst the term refers to flakes dancing around seeing auras, aroma-therapizing, and having group chants. I don't know why these people can't just dose up on Prozac or become alcoholics they're just as far out. Maybe just like throwing flower petals, throwbacks to the sixties.

But seriously, if you want to see some New Age supplies for sale check out www.toolsforwellness.com In particular their 'chi generator for 350 bucks which is akin to being in the aura of a most accomplished chi kung master. I'm thinking about getting one of those before I go on Prozac and become an alcoholic, haha.

I don't mind New Agers as long as they don't start barking about the coming endtimes. I used to be in a buddhist group back home, ten years ago. That group, and other uppy-up buddhists I've overheard say things like 'they don't want people to panic', and 'in the future there will be disintegration into city states, as in ancient Greece'.

Imagine a New Ager standing before you and when you wince at their calm intimations of coming disaster they say, 'you can't handle reality?'. Isn't reality here, now, without disaster? Actually, I exaggerate their flakiness. But who else talks about the end of the world? Yes, scientists. Because they have charts and graphs and meters to read. Uppy up buddhists have their zone they're tuned into. Which, unless you personally have a zone tuner, seems suspect....
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Satori



Joined: 09 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corporal wrote:
Yup, it certainly is bunk.

So you include yoga as bunk too then?
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Corporal



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naw, I'd agree with whoever (was it you?) that said yoga comes with health benefits (flexibility, etc.) I do think it's silly that so many Westerners get excited over the "mystery" and "otherness" of the whole yoga package, though.
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