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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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 Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| hanguker wrote: |
Hey guys. You're starting to sell me on projectors again. However, here's the situation. We're thinking of buying or junse (keymoney) an "aparteh". How does the cabling work? If you've ever been in Korean apartment buildings you'll notice that it might be a challenge to run the cables through the ceiling.
What solutions are there for cables? If we junse, we can't start drilling holes!
P.S. Big Bonus Question! Any way to buy one of these projectors in Canada and have a parent or friend ship them to you here sans duty, for personal use? |
I used ducts with adhesive backing to hide the cables, and I ran that down the wall and around the edge of the room to my PC. Not the most elegant solution in the world, but not bad considering the situation. |
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skindleshanks
Joined: 10 May 2004
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:33 am Post subject: |
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For those of you wondering, it costs about 500,000 to ship your big PDP/LCD home.
I tried to sell my wife on a projector, but she objected to four points:
1) She doesn't want a hugescreen taking over the living room.
2)She won't shut the curtains just to watch TV.
3)Like most Koreans I know, the TV is left on even when nobody's watching it, (despite my complaints) just as background to household chores, etc. The bulb would be dead in less than a year.
4) We have kids, and watch movies very quietly. The fan noise was the clincher that killed this ide for us. We spent 2 mil on a 42 inch LCD. |
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John Henry
Joined: 24 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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OK, I'm really interested in this thread. Thanks for bringing it up. I plan to buy a 42 in. soon. I decided against a projector mainly cuz of the washout factor.
BUT, what's all this about not being able to safely ship you plasma back home? Jinja? I figured it would be expensive, but doable. I was plaing to ship it to Japan or wherever I go to next. Why would this be a problem?
Big TV's are cool. |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| skindleshanks wrote: |
For those of you wondering, it costs about 500,000 to ship your big PDP/LCD home.
I tried to sell my wife on a projector, but she objected to four points:
1) She doesn't want a hugescreen taking over the living room.
2)She won't shut the curtains just to watch TV.
3)Like most Koreans I know, the TV is left on even when nobody's watching it, (despite my complaints) just as background to household chores, etc. The bulb would be dead in less than a year.
4) We have kids, and watch movies very quietly. The fan noise was the clincher that killed this ide for us. We spent 2 mil on a 42 inch LCD. |
1) Too bad.
2) That's why I've got the regular TV also.
3) Same as 2.
4) That's weird. My projector is pretty much silent.
But as long as you're happy with what you got is the main thing I suppose.
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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| John Henry wrote: |
OK, I'm really interested in this thread. Thanks for bringing it up. I plan to buy a 42 in. soon. I decided against a projector mainly cuz of the washout factor.
BUT, what's all this about not being able to safely ship you plasma back home? Jinja? I figured it would be expensive, but doable. I was plaing to ship it to Japan or wherever I go to next. Why would this be a problem?
Big TV's are cool. |
Perhaps I exaggerated when I said you couldn't take a large TV home. What I meant was that I assumed it would be prohibitively expensive. And I also have my doubts about the chances of a big LCD/PDP making it unscathed through the shipping system of your choice. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Thunndarr wrote: |
| skindleshanks wrote: |
For those of you wondering, it costs about 500,000 to ship your big PDP/LCD home.
I tried to sell my wife on a projector, but she objected to four points:
1) She doesn't want a hugescreen taking over the living room.
2)She won't shut the curtains just to watch TV.
3)Like most Koreans I know, the TV is left on even when nobody's watching it, (despite my complaints) just as background to household chores, etc. The bulb would be dead in less than a year.
4) We have kids, and watch movies very quietly. The fan noise was the clincher that killed this ide for us. We spent 2 mil on a 42 inch LCD. |
1) Too bad.
2) That's why I've got the regular TV also.
3) Same as 2.
4) That's weird. My projector is pretty much silent.
But as long as you're happy with what you got is the main thing I suppose. |
1. Huge screen talking over the living room.
I have two projector/screen home-theatre setups. Two of them. In one house. I rock. But that's not my point. (So what is your point, you tedious windbag?!) Well, it's that in neither of these setups, nor in 95% of other people's setups, does the screen dominate the room. We don't use fixed-surface, tensioned screens, our screens are the roll-up type that everyone knows and has seen at schools, conference rooms, bars, etc. When we're not watching a movie or TV sports on the projector/screen, the screen is nestled in its curtainbox, and you wouldn't even know there IS a screen in the room unless it was pulled down. And with the projector mounted on the ceiling or on a bookshelf, it too is out of sight, out of mind. Indeed, "taking over the living room" is a liability of GIANT FLAT-SCREEN TELEVISIONS, not projector/screen setups.
2. Having to draw the curtains.
See Thunndarr's answer. Also, for watching movies broadcast on TV, I use the projector. For watching Korean TV programmes & Korean news, a 42-inch PDP or LCD flat-panel is just as much overkill size-wise -- and even MORE overkill money-wise -- than a projector/screen setup. To be frank, I'd use any old jerky, used, hand-me-down TV -- that's perfectly suitable for the vast majority of TV viewing, and really no more than such programming deserves.
3. Leaving the projector on all the time will chew up bulb life.
Yep, see answer 2.
4. Them noisy projector fans.
Yeah, projectors are really quiet. If you saw one demonstrated that was noisy, here are some possible reasons why:
-- It was an unusually noisy projector. Some are but most aren't. I've never seen/heard one that wasn't quieter than the A/C or even a regular electric fan. (How do your children handle summer in Korea when those appliances are on all day & night?)
-- You were sitting/standing right beside the projector, so naturally the fan noise will be exaggerated. Once the projector is mounted on the ceiling or bookshelf, or even on a coffee table a short distance away from where you're sitting or your kids are sleeping, it's not loud enough to wake anyone up. As Thunndarr says, it's pretty much silent. |
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rocklee
Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't know there would be projector zealots out there! 
Anyway a projector is worth it if you can set the screen up right. One thing I noticed was that some screens tend to be on the small side, mine basically covered the width of the room as it is very wide. I find watching on a small project screen ineffective because you sacrifice the entire room just so that you can watch something that is only a little bigger than a PDP.
There is only one way to watch movies, big and widescreen.
My point? If you're going to go the projector way, you might as well go all the way and set up something similar to a cinema. This means that your room will have to be cabled, projector (and cables) drilled and hung on the ceiling. Setting up a projector isn't as easy as it appears to be because you have things all over the place, whereas an LCD/PDP can be transported to any room and still give the same desired effect.
Another thing, your video and audio cables cannot be too long. Pros go all out to buy the best and some of the most expensive cables (whether they are effective I do not know), but for most people doing that isn't the most viable option so they go for merely composite or s-video.
With an LCD/PDP, everything you need is in front of you. The connectivity, the speakers (go with external ones for better performance), controlling it is far easier and it is more portable around the house (if you ship TVs/projectors for a living get a 19" widescreen notebook). Plus, you don't have to turn off every light in the house to get the best performance. Watching a brightly lit screen in a room devoided of light every day is not good for your eyes!
For those who are not willing to set up a room for a projector, getting a large LCD/PDP isn't such a bad option at all (go to a typical electronic store and see how much space they take up compared to projectors). For those who has the money to buy both, get a good sized screen first then the best projector that you can afford. Setting up your speakers are equally important, don't skimp on sound! |
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rocklee
Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| John Henry wrote: |
I was plaing to ship it to Japan or wherever I go to next. Why would this be a problem?
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If you put it back into the box that it came from, I think the chances of it not getting damage would be higher. Or sell off the TV and buy a better one in Japan. |
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skindleshanks
Joined: 10 May 2004
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:59 am Post subject: |
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42 inch is not overkill, if you have a big apartment (30-40 pyeong-ish). Teh sofa's far enough away that the screen looks no bigger than our 29 inch did in our old 24-pyeong house. It is in a tiny apartment, though.
Spending over 3 million on a TV, projector (or combination) is out of the question for us, though. At some point it becomes a toy for showing off to your buddies rather than an economically reasonable investment from your entertainment budget. Even two million is enough to save the life of an AIDS orphan in Africa . . . |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:21 am Post subject: |
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hanguker
Joined: 16 Mar 2005
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Rocklee, you make some good points for PDP/LCD. Seem to be a REAL less pain in the butt. The prices are still falling, too. |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Rocklee, you make some good points for PDP/LCD. Seem to be a REAL less pain in the butt. The prices are still falling, too. |
I don't think anyone needs to be convinced that PDP/LCDs are cool. Unless you've been living in a cave for the last few years, you're more than likely to be well-aware of their qualities already. And the point of this thread was not to debate about which format is necessarily better than the other either.
What it's really about is getting people the information they need to make informed decisions. Honestly, I hate seeing people make bad purchases due to ignorance of their possible choices. For example, look at the iPod. I've got nothing against the iPod at all, it seems like a nifty little device. However, a lot of people have absolutely no idea that there are actually other types of mp3 players on the market.
It's the same thing here. I'm not trying to convince people to buy a projector as opposed to a PDP/LCD. I'm just trying to show people that they have more choices than they may have realized. Obviously, it's all going to come down to personal preference, but in this case, more information means more choices, which ultimately means being more satisfied with a purchase. |
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rocklee
Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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and this is what im shooting for!!
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Ours looks like this. Like I said, its worth it if you go all out. |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:22 am Post subject: |
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| rocklee wrote: |
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and this is what im shooting for!!
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Ours looks like this. Like I said, its worth it if you go all out. |
how much did it cost you all up? |
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rocklee
Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Your mileage may vary.
Ours cost around $8000-$10000 AUD. Work included proper installation of the screen and projector, lights, speaker installation, ceiling renovation, screen and cables. |
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