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Pligganease

Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: The deep south...
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
Sigh. It's perfectly clear what he is saying. If you heard those words spoken instead of written, you'd have no problem with their delivery, and your subsequent comprehension of them. People don't speak in perfect grammatical sentences. DD writes as if he's speaking. Is there a law against it?
I grow increasingly tired of this idea that the posts on this litle forum should be written in some kind of accademic standard of English. Who really cares? |
Don't be that ignorant, BB, because I know you're not. The difference between spoken an written English is significant in that when speeking you can use tone, body language, and other means to convey your point. When writing there is only grammar to separate ideas and to give structure to thoughts. Without that structure, the thoughts appear jumbled and incoherant, like DD's posts often do.
| Pligganease, in the style of ddeubel, wrote: |
| Can? I write, posts... like! This no because its too. Understanding is, difficult. |
Do you see what I mean?
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| Well, you like all your ts crossed and izzzzz dotted donut you? But sorry, there is a hole in everything. Actually I am doing both. Speaking and writing. Just like you should do both -- think and read. Seems you are only proficient at the later. But I won't go into a discussion on this, it would be long and boring and without much substance. |
This is a good post. Most of your verbs have subjects and the punctiation isn't all over the place. You're improving! It no longer appears that you are writing for the broadway play William Shatner is Yoda.
As far as the "think and read" bit. Don't be so arrogant. When you write that way, everyone has to think more because they have to decipher the babble.
Whiting what you are thinking is a great thing. Writing in the pattern you are thinking is bad grammar. It's not your cool personal writing style. It's laziness and, well, crap. |
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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Pligganease wrote: |
| Pligganease, in the style of ddeubel, wrote: |
| Can? I write, posts... like! This no because its too. Understanding is, difficult. |
Do you see what I mean?
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Well that is quite amusing Pliggy and you did make me grin, but it's rather an exaggeration as I have never seen DD write quite like that. In fact I have never had any problem understanding DD, and don't mind his style for a moment. It seems to flow quite well for me, and I don't quite understand why anyone else has such a problem with it. For that reason I think all the complaining is basically just another stick to hit him with. |
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wannago
Joined: 16 Apr 2004
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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She is UNQUALIFIED. Theres a lot of talk about B.A.s in basketweaving not being qualified to teach. Well, atleast all we do here is teach. This failure has a whole lotta responsibility on her shoulders and her qualification is in something that doesnt even exist anymore.
Im still waiting for someone to point out her accomplishments in her current position as Sec of State.
There are 2 reasons she still has a job.
1. Shes a woman
2. She's black
ok, there are three
3. Her boss is a moron who hires incompetent idiots a la Rumsfeld. |
You do realize that if this woman had been appointed by a Democrat and had these qualities:
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1. Shes a woman
2. She's black
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There would be more charges of sexism and racism thrown around this thread (and probably the entire board) by the nasty little liberals than you could shake a stick at.
But, hey, its Condi and she's conservative and Republican and that cancels out all PC for most liberals. It makes me wonder what happens if Obama is elected Prez and conservatives start calling him
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3. Her boss is a moron . . . |
Ah, yes, the racism charges will be fast and furious. I just love hypocritical libs. |
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stevemcgarrett

Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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wannago:
Yep, you got it. When it comes to hypocrisy, liberals and the Left in general take the cake. They harp on and on about equality of opportunity but when someone like Rice achieves stature they denigrate her simply because they disagree with her ideology. It's the kind of mean-spiritedness the liberals supposedly chafe against. They are so sanctimonious. |
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Gamecock

Joined: 26 Nov 2003
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:37 am Post subject: |
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| Yep, you got it. When it comes to hypocrisy, liberals and the Left in general take the cake. They harp on and on about equality of opportunity but when someone like Rice achieves stature they denigrate her simply because they disagree with her ideology. It's the kind of mean-spiritedness the liberals supposedly chafe against. They are so sanctimonious. |
C'mon Steve. Are you serious? If you want to point out hypocrisy and sanctimounousness and mean-spiritedness of liberals, feel free. I don't disagree. But don't pretend they have exclusive rights to such tendencies. It only diminishes any argument you make. Unless you are being paid by a political party to promote an agenda, such statements shouldn't come out of the mouth of an educated, objective person. |
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wannago
Joined: 16 Apr 2004
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:49 am Post subject: |
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| Yep, you got it. When it comes to hypocrisy, liberals and the Left in general take the cake. They harp on and on about equality of opportunity but when someone like Rice achieves stature they denigrate her simply because they disagree with her ideology. It's the kind of mean-spiritedness the liberals supposedly chafe against. They are so sanctimonious. |
C'mon Steve. Are you serious? If you want to point out hypocrisy and sanctimounousness and mean-spiritedness of liberals, feel free. I don't disagree. But don't pretend they have exclusive rights to such tendencies. It only diminishes any argument you make. Unless you are being paid by a political party to promote an agenda, such statements shouldn't come out of the mouth of an educated, objective person. |
Exclusive rights? No one said anything about that, but liberals never fail to point out any problems on the other side and almost completely deny that they have many problems themselves. I think sanctimonious is a perfect word. Well done, Steve.
Gamecock, you and I both know that if Condi was a liberal and conservatives were spewing this stuff, liberals would play the race card without hesitation. I haven't heard this from conservatives (or even Condi herself). Have you? |
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Gamecock

Joined: 26 Nov 2003
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:56 am Post subject: |
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The truth is, on this issue. you are right. Because of their track record conservatives can't play the race card like the liberals do. I'm not saying Libs aren't sanctimonious about it. I think I admitted it. But on a plethura of other issues conservatives are just as hypocritical, mean-spirited, and sanctimonious.
Steve makes it clear that "when it comes to hypocrisy, liberals and the Left in general take the cake." That IS a sweeping statement! I am just pointing out that there is plenty of hypocrisy cake to go around. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:56 am Post subject: |
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wannago:
Yep, you got it. When it comes to hypocrisy, liberals and the Left in general take the cake. They harp on and on about equality of opportunity but when someone like Rice achieves stature they denigrate her simply because they disagree with her ideology. It's the kind of mean-spiritedness the liberals supposedly chafe against. They are so sanctimonious. |
You are a freaking twit. |
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stevemcgarrett

Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:27 am Post subject: |
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Gamecock:
If you've read some of my posts on other threads, you'd know I'm an independent. Certainly the conservatives don't have a monopoly on virture. But neither do they go around declaring themselves so culturally sensitive, kind, and empathetic. The closest they come is an expression like "compassionate conservative."
I just find it amusing how indignant liberals get when any conservative voices anything remotely derogatory but, oh my, if one of their own says something blatantly insensitive, you hear hardly a squeak.
Another case in point: Hillary Clinton's asinine joke about an Indian convenience store owner before a liberal gathering in the Midwest not so long ago.
And of course the libs never take Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton or Louis Farrakan to task for their anti-Semitic remarks from time to time.
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